F5, selecting data, bookmarks



    1. When i submit form and press F5 to just refresh page or re-submit form it wont work.
    2. It would be nice if you can make some feature for selecting just what is needed from table. http://imgur.com/6Dgi7s8
    3. There is still bug with dragging elements, when i try to drag some element - browser crashes.
    4. Can i somehow specify my address bar autocomplete for just domain, most of the time i'm typing domain name and it just autocomplete not just domain but all the address
      "mydomain/admin/index.phpoute=common/home&token=1bed0a95f4b5f........"
    5. Its just buggy and working very slow, when i drag page address to bookmarks bar it will take 3-4 sec. to place it there.

    When i click bookmark icon http://imgur.com/bibG1Sz i will take 2-4 sec. to load my list.

    http://imgur.com/0BmAM1o
    It would be nice if you can make keyboard button "Home" >go to top of the bookmarks list and "End" go to end of the list.

    When i try to drag one bookmark from the end to top of the list, its just impossible so make it fast, i just drag drop scroll, drag drop scroll, drag drop scroll.... Maybe you can make when bookmark is dragged to top of the showing bookmarks that moment, all the list just scrolling automatically up.

    Other useful thing i think would be when bookmark is clicked with mouse wheel bookmarks list don't close, just leave it open, and when i try to right click on my folder with specified bookmarks (i want option open all bookmarks in folder) it just open one bookmark and i need to open it again, scroll to down or middle of the list and try open other page.

    And now i discover other bug :) when i try to right click on bookmark it just open the link and i cant delete, edit or rename it.



  • @fabolous said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    1. When i submit form and press F5 to just refresh page or re-submit form it wont work.

    I can confirm this bug here, on Vivaldi Stable 1.5.658.56 (32-bit) on Windows.

    1. It would be nice if you can make some feature for selecting just what is needed from table. http://imgur.com/6Dgi7s8

    Do you mean selecting columns instead of rows? By default you always select rows (across many browsers and other programs) and thus it's intuitive as the default option. To be able to select columns, you would have to somehow "tell" the browser whether you want to select columns or rows. One program that I know that works like that is PSPad - you can select columns of text while holding the [ALT] key.

    If you want such feature in Vivaldi, post your request here, but please be specific and elaborate a little more on how do you want / expect this feature to work.

    1. Can i somehow specify my address bar autocomplete for just domain, most of the time i'm typing domain name and it just autocomplete not just domain but all the address
      "mydomain/admin/index.phpoute=common/home&token=1bed0a95f4b5f........"

    Check the feature request topic, I'm pretty sure it was requested there already... You can also vote for the features that you'd like to see in future releases of Vivaldi.

    1. Its just buggy and working very slow, when i drag page address to bookmarks bar it will take 3-4 sec. to place it there.
      When i click bookmark icon http://imgur.com/bibG1Sz i will take 2-4 sec. to load my list.

    I think it's because you have gazillions of bookmarks there. The bookmark bar is better for keeping only the most frequently visited bookmarks. For the rest you can use the bookmarks panel, where you can organize them nicely into categories and subcategories using folders. From the bookmarks panel you can also add new bookmarks, rearrange them, sort them (by Title, Address, Nickname, Description or Date Created), search them and of course edit them. Drag & Drop works smoothly there, though I have only like 50 bookmarks in total, so I guess YMMV. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    http://imgur.com/0BmAM1o
    It would be nice if you can make keyboard button "Home" >go to top of the bookmarks list and "End" go to end of the list.

    That is NOT intuitive for context menus. Do you actually know of any context menu that supports [Home], [End], [Page Up], [Page Down] or similar keys? All context menus (that I know of) support only arrow keys and designated hotkeys.

    Again - should you use the bookmarks panel, you would be able to use the [Home] and [End] buttons. And in my opinion it would be easier for you, if you'd organize them into at least few categories, instead of keeping a mile-long list of various bookmarks. Wouldn't that be more convenient (and time-saving), than looking through the full list of everything, each time you want to open some bookmark? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    When i try to drag one bookmark from the end to top of the list, its just impossible so make it fast, i just drag drop scroll, drag drop scroll, drag drop scroll.... Maybe you can make when bookmark is dragged to top of the showing bookmarks that moment, all the list just scrolling automatically up.

    Man, you should really check out that bookmarks panel... ๐Ÿ˜

    Other useful thing i think would be when bookmark is clicked with mouse wheel bookmarks list don't close, just leave it open, and when i try to right click on my folder with specified bookmarks (i want option open all bookmarks in folder) it just open one bookmark and i need to open it again, scroll to down or middle of the list and try open other page.

    Like seriously, man! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    And now i discover other bug :) when i try to right click on bookmark it just open the link and i cant delete, edit or rename it.

    I don't use the bookmarks bar and I'm too lazy to try to reproduce it myself, so if you're sure there is such a bug, don't hesitate to report it.


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    Do not report bug with F5 and forms. It is already known bug with POST requests.



  • @pafflick
    I don't use the bookmarks bar and I'm too lazy to try to reproduce it myself, so if you're sure there is such a bug, don't hesitate to report it.

    If you don't use bookmarks bar it doesn't mean other people don't use it too. Bookmark panel works fine :) In vivaldi i have about 400-500 bookmarks and it works slow, in firefox i have more than 2k and it work perfect. I'm used to use that bookmarks table, block or.. don't know how to name it in english correctly http://imgur.com/0BmAM1o

    So why do i need to organize in folders, sub folders and sub sub sub folders? For me its much faster to find it when its not in folder or sub folder :)



  • @fabolous said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    If you don't use bookmarks bar it doesn't mean other people don't use it too.

    Have you even understood what I said? :face_palm:

    In vivaldi i have about 400-500 bookmarks and it works slow, in firefox i have more than 2k and it work perfect. I'm used to use that bookmarks table, block or.. don't know how to name it in english correctly http://imgur.com/0BmAM1o

    So why do i need to organize in folders, sub folders and sub sub sub folders? For me its much faster to find it when its not in folder or sub folder :)

    Frankly, you don't need to do anything; I just proposed an idea which I think would make managing large amounts of bookmarks easier, faster and more convenient. It's like using a table of contents in a book. You can bundle similar bookmarks together and then find them quickly by opening certain folders. To find anything quickly on a list with 2k items (or even 500) you have to either remember each items location or remember it's name (if you sort them alphabetically), since you can display only a part of that list at a time. Or you can keep on scrolling like a doof... ๐Ÿ˜œ
    Anyway, I've said how things work, but you chose your way, sir.



  • As you said:
    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    I don't use the bookmarks bar and I'm too lazy to try to reproduce it myself, so if you're sure there is such a bug, don't hesitate to report it.

    I said:

    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    If you don't use bookmarks bar it doesn't mean other people don't use it too.

    And you:

    Did you even understood what I said?

    Yea, i'm sure i understood what you said.

    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    since you can display only a part of that list at a time
    In bookmark panel its the same,when you open it you see just a part of list, when you scroll or search you find what you are looking for.

    I remember where i put my bookmarks by icon and name, so i find them fast and don't need to open bookmark panel.

    Thanks for advise, pretty sure I'm not gonna use it. But thanks :)



  • @fabolous said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    As you said:
    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    I don't use the bookmarks bar and I'm too lazy to try to reproduce it myself, so if you're sure there is such a bug, don't hesitate to report it.

    I said:

    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:

    If you don't use bookmarks bar it doesn't mean other people don't use it too.

    And you:

    Did you even understood what I said?

    Yea, i'm sure i understood what you said.

    OK, you've totally missed the point, and the context too, so here it is again: I said that I don't use the bookmarks bar and thus I can't reproduce your bug (because I'm to lazy to switch it on, add items and then test it for bugs). I don't recall saying anything about others using or not using the bookmark bar, so your comment was completely irrelevant. You've said an obvious thing that nobody was even questioning. What was the point? ๐Ÿค”

    @pafflick said in F5, selecting data, bookmarks:
    I remember where i put my bookmarks by icon and name, so i find them fast and don't need to open bookmark panel.

    Thanks for advise, pretty sure I'm not gonna use it. But thanks :)

    You're very good at managing a chaos then, but still you're free to do so, if it suits you. ๐Ÿ˜œ Though it's not gonna fix those performance issues that you talked about, so you should still report any bugs or issues that you experience while using the bookmarks functionality, by following the links from my first post. Just try to be as specific as you can, so that the dev team could investigate it.


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    The bookmarks panel is more or less completely developed for organizing, accessing, categorizing, editing and manipulating bookmarks.

    The bookmarks bar, as yet, is not. A ton more code has to be written to give the bookmarks bar all of the capabilities it will eventually have. Right now it's just a place to see and use the few bookmarks you use all day, every day.

    In Chrome, it's the primary access point for bookmarks. Vivaldi is not Chrome.

    All of the features you want will eventually be in that bar. But for now, they are in the panel. The developers are well aware that the bookmarks bar is unfinished. They are the ones who knowingly left it in that state, to free up attention to devote to higher priorities. Users complain of missing features daily. It will get attention when it rises to the top of the priority list again.


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