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  • @gaelle said in Where Vivaldi keep Search Engines data?:

    @jacekn which operating system version do you use? Regarding search engines data, please check this discussion: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/6666/where-are-the-search-engines-stored-answered-conclusion-fml

    The thread to which gaelle linked has vanished.

    It still shows up in Google Search results, but even Google's caches of the page now return a 404.

    The only place I was able to still find it is the Google cached copies of the thread under the old Kunena-powered forums:

    Page 1: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tDG7LxriD6EJ:https://vivaldi.net/es/forum/vivaldi-browser/9125-where-are-the-search-engines-stored-answered-conclusion-fml%3Flimitstart%3D0+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Page 2: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:bIgVpUgHzjcJ:https://vivaldi.net/es/forum/vivaldi-browser/9125-where-are-the-search-engines-stored-answered-conclusion-fml%3Fstart%3D20+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    I've taken the liberty of backing those up at http://archive.is/oK0qa (p. 1) and http://archive.is/XtyRp (p. 2) since Google caches expire.



  • I think it's due to the OP account removal. I had a dispute with him (over a quite trivial matter), but he kept on disagreeing with me (in not very kind way), downvoting dozens (at least 20 or 30) of my comments here on the forums in his rage. At some point, after proving one of his arguments invalid, he (most likely) deleted his account or it was deleted by one of the admins.
    I'm not sure for what reasons was his account removed (or just blocked / temporarily disabled?), these are only my presumptions...



  • @pafflick

    Ah, thank you for the context. I'm sorry you had to deal with such behavior. A bit of googling indicates that all threads started by RRR13 (as well as individual posts in threads started by someone else) have indeed vanished, so you must be right about it being connected with the ban.

    If banning someone necessarily deletes all the threads they started, that seems a less-than-ideal implementation of banning functionality. Some threads started by a banned user may still contain useful information (and any posts other people have spent time contributing get deleted as collateral damage).

    I hope that the commit described in https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB/issues/125 doesn't mean this is hardcoded into nodeBB as the only option when banning a user. (Of course, remove-all would be a convenient option when banning a spambot, however.)

    On the subject of deleting one's own topic:
    I myself recently deleted a topic I had started (I had mistakenly reported something as a bug; upon receiving a reply from mib2berlin helpfully pointing out my obvious error, I wanted to at least edit the topic's title so that other people wouldn't bother wasting time viewing the topic. Unfortunately there was no available option in the first post's "⋮" menu for me to just edit my initial post, so I opted for Topic Tools> Delete Topic instead.) But it actually seems odd that a non-moderator user even can delete an entire thread like that; I was a bit surprised when I tried and the forum just complied, rather than giving me a message like "A moderator will review your deletion request." It'd be one thing if no one else has posted in one's topic yet, but wouldn't it make more sense to limit to moderators the ability to nuke an entire thread already containing posts by other people?



  • @Isildur said in An entire thread has vanished.:

    I had mistakenly reported something as a bug; upon receiving a reply from mib2berlin helpfully pointing out my obvious error, I wanted to at least edit the topic's title so that other people wouldn't bother wasting time viewing the topic.

    I'd prefer that these "mistaken" threads are left as well. I would bet you were/will be not the only person to make such an error. A quick search may then save others :blush:



  • @Isildur said in An entire thread has vanished.:

    Ah, thank you for the context. I'm sorry you had to deal with such behavior. (...)
    If banning someone necessarily deletes all the threads they started, that seems a less-than-ideal implementation of banning functionality.

    He wasn't excessively offensive towards me. He just used some argumentum ad personam and that kind of stuff - typical for Internet forums and nothing that I haven't dealt with yet. 😃 And - apart from that (quite pitiful) downvoting rampage - he didn't said anything to deserve a ban in my opinion (maybe a warning at last). I haven't reported any of his posts and I haven't seen any admin or mod giving him a public warning in the "Feature requests for 1.6" thread (where it all happened). Plus he was an active member on both the forums and the blog, so banning him would be an excessive punishment (unless there were other reasons, that I'm not aware of).

    I haven't even accused him of downvoting my comments at that time, as I wasn't sure if that was actually him (though I noticed my reputation points dropping in an unusual amount over an hour or so), but seeing my rep going up by some 20 or 30 points up following his account disappearance (without getting any notifications about somebody upvoting my posts) gave me the confidence...

    Also, I'm pretty sure that I was able to see banned user's posts in mentioned thread (though they're gone now) and I'm definitely sure, that banned user get a special tag (like admin or mod, which is a bit hilarious by the way), so I assumed that he rage-quitted the conversation by deleting his account himself.

    Anyway, I agree with you that removing one's account should leave all of their posts and threads or at least remove their posts contents, but leave the threads and other people's posts intact.


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