Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum


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    @Quinca71 PM stands for "Private Message". These forums use chats, but it works similarly.



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    @Quinca71 OK, I think I know what you mean and that's a valid point (I guess). But your language is a bit difficult to understand sometimes. I think you should hold off a little bit your inner "poet" and use simpler phrases/sentences... 😉

    PS. By "inner poet" I don't mean to criticize you, I mean that you seem to have a little bit more "poetic" soul than others (judging from the "Slogans for Vivaldi browser" thread for example) and that's great. It's just that in some places (like this thread) it's just better to go for the simplicity.
    Sorry for explaining the things that you might already know, but since English is not a mother tongue for neither me or you, I just thought I'd clarify that to avoid any unnecessary confusion.



  • @pafflick

    I thank your observations, appreciate them, most of all the words and mode you have chosen to make them come to me.

    But there is one thing I especially appreciate, above all: freedom of style for writing, and unless I am breaking a rule, or even a general unwritten (I also respect) consensus, do not you get me wrong, but I will continue as I am.

    Frankly surprised by you also be a "non-native". Unbelievable. Do you swear?



  • @pafflick

    I beg permission for a second response and your favor to delete the previous. It is currently unavailable to my editions. I have not noticed the moderator badge that is now in front of your username. I beg, too, your pardon, and, please, receive my compliments, if the nomination is as recent as I think.

    I only want add that if I had acquaintance (or perceived) previously, my response above never would be made.

    I thought I was replying to an user like me, just with divergent opinions. It is not the case anymore.


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    @Quinca71 said in Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum:

    But there is one thing I especially appreciate, above all: freedom of style for writing, and unless I am breaking a rule, or even a general unwritten (I also respect) consensus, do not you get me wrong, but I will continue as I am.

    That is not against the rules, and I'm not going to force anything like that on you - it was merely a suggestion. The point is that in some cases (like reporting bugs, requesting features) it's generally better to use simple English, as there are many "non-natives" here and it will be much easier for them to understand what's being talked about. 😉

    @Quinca71 said in Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum:

    Frankly surprised by you also be a "non-native". Unbelievable. Do you swear?

    That's true, I'm trying to improve every day. 😄

    @Quinca71 said in Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum:

    I have not noticed the moderator badge that is now in front of your username. I beg, too, your pardon, and, please, receive my compliments, if the nomination is as recent as I think.
    (...)
    I thought I was replying to an user like me, just with divergent opinions. It is not the case anymore.

    Thank you for the compliments, it is quite recent indeed, but I'm still a user just like you - nothing has changed in this regard (apart from new duties). 😃



  • Trying make an workout within the observations from the respectable moderator. I do an effort for giving a summary more direct and under more simplified (or less complicated) development of the subject about my request for "Whisper". But it is an effort, without any guarantees of success.

    1-I was almost giving up on that request, especially due to the excellent content put by Isildur.

    2-However, at the point we have arrived, I think I can ascertain that the feature would be very useful, significantly upper the PM, and with different and more favorable "hues".

    3 - When we "whisper" through this tool, or resource, we are targeting a specific individual or a specific restricted group of individuals, using a "site" open to public interventions (the topic> the forum) where each registered user Is free to add posts. So less intimidating.

    4-By chat, we are moving to a private address and this may sharpen our sense of privacy, preventing it from proceeding. If our whisper searches for a specific limited group of individuals, if we chat, we have to go one by one through their private addresses.
    In addition, we lost the link to the theme, with all users at the same time, all users readers. All participants of the content, summarizing, with all the conjuncture gathered in the same place.

    5 - The chat inhibiting the naturalness of communication, as said above, also inhibits the awakening of a feeling of camaraderie, which the whisper stimulates.

    But it is necessary that whoever is unleashing the "whisper" has the sense of camaraderie within himself in order to act accordingly.

    For example, warning the moderator of his mistake, I had a sense of the repercussion of this error in the community and I took it as if it were myself, as if I, myself, was involved. And I applied the sense of camaraderie. If I had exposed the error to all who go through the subject, I would have contributed to its solution. But, I would not have preserved the author.

    6-So I decide myself for maintaining this request and cheer for it.



  • @pafflick

    I'm coming from have did some editions, reducing, don't know if sufficiently, much that were out of context and too abundant. Well, let's say, not totally sufficient. But, one can not deny that improved.

    I'm coming too, for thanking your recommendations and suggestions, with which I have had the satisfaction of agree. Never would be excessive -- due to the merit -- repeat that your words, argumentation and expositions were particularly sensible towards me, well done and placed. Thanks again.



  • Block a user: hide all posts/topics of a specific user, switch on/off by visiting their profile.



  • @luetage said in Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum:

    Block a user: hide all posts/topics of a specific user, switch on/off by visiting their profile.

    Forgive me, just trying to help. If only "a user". "a specific user", (your texts) would be blocked, would not the correct one be "his profile", rather than "their profile"? Forgive the boldness of the "non-native" 😀



  • @Quinca71 You could argue that, but I don't think the ladies would be too happy about it.

    "His" used to be a gender-neutral pronoun until recently. Usage was formal as well as informal. It isn't wrong per se, but it's not modern anymore, and already considered bad etiquette? I don't know, nowadays you are on the safe side if you use "their" instead of "his". Other options are "hisorher", "her", "his/her and "its". I like none of these though, and they aren't common either.



  • @luetage

    Thank you. Well, I have not to be a specialist simply for writing on forums. All I need is make me understood. As currently I write with significant support of Google Translator, I have not much to worry. My method is write well on my own language. And, as I do exactly this (because I have a level from good to very good over it); GT, significantly improved from certain time to here, turns to me a text of quality more or less correspondent. BTW, there are deficiencies, of course, but we can live with that. As I have rudimentary, but good, notions of English grammar, I am not a robot when using GT. All this text I am writing now, I am going by my own, "googleless". It ought have much "cats", but I believe you'll understand perfectly the general meaning of the content. Enough to me.
    Finishing, I was giving a hand to GT, officially. Now, tired and old, I get off from the officialism. They (Google) are calling me back, saying that they have improved significantly last year, or something alike, and that I have been part of this improvement. At least, at my language > English, I am sure I have had very small (or would be little? I have difficulties with this) performance, but didn't let to be done. Excuse me. As always, too verbose. Mods, accept, please, this medium long off topic.


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    @Quinca71 his is only correct for a person tagging himself as male.
    People with female identity would not like to be with his. And people who do not like to be sorted in binary sex assignment would not be lucky with his or her. gender neutral is not easy, see [1] and [2]

    If we could have in our forum profile a setting for person's sex/gender (male, female, neuter, none, transgender etc.) the forum could use the correct wording.
    Would be nice. And would protect our female visitors to be wrongly identified as a guy or dude (as some people think wise IT people belong to the social group Man [=male]). 😉



  • @Gwen-Dragon You misunderstand the context. We are not talking about a known user male/female, but about the usage of his/her/its/their in a sentence, where the gender of the user cannot be known, because we are not addressing any user in particular (see my initial post and the usage of their).

    The usage of "his" or "her" is still deemed acceptable, because "his" and "her" are gender-neutral pronouns in this context. I already explained why I still wouldn't use it, but it isn't incorrect, and shouldn't be considered offensive. "Their" is likely the better choice nowadays, but one could argue it's grammatically even incorrect (plural instead of singular).



  • @Gwen-Dragon

    Very, very grateful. Could I be allowed another out of context? I'll take the risk.

    All these questions would be more pronounced because of the English language, if compared to the so-called neo-Latin languages. Not that these are exempt from these problems. But certainly more than English.

    My tongue is one of the neo-Latines. If a scope like Vivaldi had this language as the standard - and I am saying this more as a basis of argument, in the real world would be impossible (except and in part, the Spanish), I get the impression that these problems would at least be reduced. For example, a male user would be designated: usuário. If female, would be called usuária.

    But I should not go any further, because it is out of context in this discussion. There are a lot of considerations to be made in this regard, and in addition, I do not know if I would have the competence to go deeper.


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    @Gwen-Dragon said in Feature requests for Vivaldi's new forum:

    And people who do not like to be sorted in binary sex assignment would not be lucky with his or her. gender neutral is not easy

    In Canada a war has been launched against Professor Jordan Peterson because he refuses to address non-binary students with their preferred pronouns (I believe there are 66 non-binary states presently). The screaming and anger hurled at him is amazing: it's all on YouTube. And for the first time in years he was refused government money for research so it's getting serious.



  • In good old times those crazy ppl were confined in asylums.
    Now can we stop about this bs and talk about Vivaldi problems? thank you.


  • Vivaldi Ambassador

    @iAN-CooG Indeed. Off-topic. My apologies for joining in. Back to regularly scheduled programming.



  • Hi folks, it's possible to add an option not to duplicate the reply's?
    It really confusing to me and I don't see the utility.
    I add a screenshots to see

    0_1493237373808_Vivaldi Forum - Reply's (duplicate reply).png

    Strangely, very few times, it don't show the duplicate reply and I don't understand why this happens...


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    @Marko-Indaco it's a bit confuse to me too.


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