Vivaldi forgets all passwords, sometimes



  • Hi, anyone has same problem with forgeting passwords in Vivaldi? I have stored many of saved passwords in browser but sometimes when I open some login page with saved password Vivaldi cannot complete username and password. Sometimes it takes a few seconds and then Vivaldi complete name and password, sometimes it takes minutes and I must restart whole browser - after restart Vivaldi complete everything immediatelly. When I look to Settings > Provacy > Passwords, when Vivaldi has problems with completing data, I see only text "Cannot find any saved passwords" ([i]I have Vivaldi in Czech language, so this is my translate :) [/i]) I have this problem at home (Win 10 Pro, Czech) and also at work (Win 7 Enterprise, Czech) - at work it is bigger problem, because there I still opening some pages with logins in intranet and internal services). So, whats wrong? Of course, I have stored plenty and plenty passwords, maybe Vivaldi has problem process many of passwords, is that possible? -------------------- Vivaldi 1.4.589.38 (Stable channel) (64bitový) Verze afa9b018e32575fcd8f8283755a315804ecf0671 Operační systém Windows Blink 537.36 (@afa9b018e32575fcd8f8283755a315804ecf0671) JavaScript V8 5.3.332.47 Flash (Deactivated) User agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.148 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.4.589.38 Příkazový řádek "C:\Programy\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe" --vivaldi-standalone --always-authorize-plugins --disable-translate --enable-use-zoom-for-dsf=false --flag-switches-begin --save-page-as-mhtml --enable-features=ScrollAnchoring --flag-switches-end Spustitelná cesta C:\Programy\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe Cesta k profilu C:\Programy\Vivaldi\User Data\Default Attachments: [img]https://forum.vivaldi.net/uploads/attachments/22728/passwords.png[/img]



  • May be a crashe process blocks the login database.

    Try this:
    1. Close Vivaldi
    2. Open Taskmanager
    3. kill all Vivaldi processes
    4. Start Vivaldi
    5. Open chrome://settings/search#System
    6. Untick "Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed"
    7. Restart Vivaldi



  • Thanks, done and I'll check by using Vivaldi if this really help .)

    BTW, I must switch Czech Vivaldi to English, because every settings are translated so chrome://settings/search#System doesn't work :)



  • @MartinezZ:

    BTW, I must switch Czech Vivaldi to English, because every settings are translated so chrome://settings/search#System doesn't work :)

    Sorry, i can read francais, english and deutsch.



  • It is OK, only info for those who try same procedure on non-english Vivaldi :)



  • Unfortunately, it doesn't work.

    • closed Vivaldi, kill remains Vivaldi processes, start Vivaldi, uncheck "Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed", close Vivaldi, start Vivaldi again.

    A few hours later I open login page on some service when I have saved password and no password and username was completed. In Settings > Privacy > Passwords I see again only information like "Cannot find any saved passwords". After cca one minute, during writing this post, passwords shows up in Settings and also in login page.



  • Do you use extensions?
    May be such crashers block Vivaldi.

    1. Deactivate all in Extension manager (Ctrl+Shift+E)
    2. Reactivate one extension
    3. Close Vivaldi
    4. See in Taskmanager if Vivaldi processe are running
    5. repeat Step 2

    –-
    Sometimes the 1.4 64bit may have some unknwon bugs.
    Can you uninstall the 64bit and try the 32bit version of Vivaldi?



  • As first I replaced previous 64bit by new 32bit version (just install 32bit on 64bit) and now I'll see. Of course it is not as good as clean 32bit install but now I haven't so strong nerves for clean install and set up.



  • OK. Replacing 64bit by 32bit doesn't help, respective doesn't help fully. Maybe, but only maybe, because it is very relative, loading passwords is faster, but I still must waiting when all passwords loads and appear in Settings.

    So I try disable all installed extensions, close Vivaldi, kill remaining processes and start Vivaldi again. Passwords loading and appearing in Settings > Privacy IS faster, but Vivaldi has still delays with passwords loading in seconds. When I start enabling extensions one by one and checking, passwords loading are slowly and slowly.

    Maybe there are some correlation in how much passwords I have saved vs. how much extensions I'm using… (certainly more then 100 passwords and 19 extensions).

    I cannot say some exactly extension really block or significantly slows passwords loading. And I don't think some program in PC has influence, at home and at work runs different antivir/firewall, programs on background, Windows version. And also I don't know no other same information from other Vivaldi users and that is more stranger, maybe.



  • @MartinezZ:

    Unfortunately, it doesn't work.

    • closed Vivaldi, kill remains Vivaldi processes, start Vivaldi, uncheck "Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed", close Vivaldi, start Vivaldi again.

    A few hours later I open login page on some service when I have saved password and no password and username was completed. In Settings > Privacy > Passwords I see again only information like "Cannot find any saved passwords". After cca one minute, during writing this post, passwords shows up in Settings and also in login page.

    I had a similar password problem like yours which was due to the high disk activity issue. Passwords would disapper and sometimes re-appear without doing anything after sometime or upon restarting the browser.

    The high disk activity bug is probably inherited from a long standing Chromium bug so there is no easy fix for the root cause but there is a simple workaround for ordinary users - just change read attribute of the Top Sites* files in your profile folder to read-only. You'll lose some functionality like the start page. This will solve 2 Vivaldi issues - missing passwords, high disk activity.

    Other quick fixes like deleting top sites* or deleting the profile directory (after saving bookmarks etc) also work but only temporarily.



  • I do have the same problem as the previous poster, only in my case Vivaldi doesn't even save passwords at all. Obviously I hit the yes button when prompted and the general option is activated in the settings too; however, underneath it reads "Cannot find passwords". And the prompt always shows again when I enter a password, as though it was the very first time.

    It hadn't been a biggie thus far but it begins to be annoying.

    Deactivating extensions does not help it.



  • @muck - A clean profile will fix it.



  • @Ayespy
    Thanks, but how "clean" does it have to be? I have just finished migrating from Firefox and I would hate to start over again or risk retaining all passwords and such.



  • @muck You can export you passwords into a CSV file
    As i remember like this:

    1. Open vivaldi://flags/#password-import-export
    2. Set Activate
    3. Restart Vivaldi
    4. Open vivaldi://chrome/settings/passwords
    5. Hit Export
    6. Enter Windows account password to allow export
    7. In file save dialog set filename for CSV file
    8. Save the file
    9. Open vivaldi://flags
    10. Reset settings

    Now you can edit this file in a texteditor.
    CAUTION: This file is readable for all getting access to you account.

    Ans you can import this file into a fresh clear profile if you set vivaldi://flags/#password-import-export in new profile.



  • Thank you very much for your efforts trying to help. :blush:

    Unfortunately, I simply don't get this line:

    | In file save dialog set filename for CSV file |

    Am I supposed to change something within this file or save it as XYZ? I'm asking especially since there is nothing to export really. CSV-files are easily opened with notepad++ and it only contains a single line:

    name,url,username,password

    Could I simply enter account data following this pattern? What's "name" supposed to be, though?

    name, www.google.com, myusername, mypassword ?



  • After you entered the password for your Windows account, a file save dialog appears and you have to set a filename you like to save the exported data.

    Such exported file may have (in my example with only 1 password):

    name,url,username,password
    Example,https://Example.org/,user123,"xyzu12"
    

    First line is always the same, should not be deleted and contains a field names for reimport.

    If there is nothing to export, you don't have saved logins or your logins database file is corrupted and lost.



  • @Gwen-Dragon

    Thank you.

    Well, yes, there's nothing in that file (even though I hit "save this password" all the time) so it really seems there's some sort of corruption going on.

    What kind of entry does 'name' ('example' in your post) demand, though? The name the website deplays for itself (www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl → Google)? The custom name under which I saved a bookmark? Any old name? As I do not have a functioning file I do not know the correct syntax, and this line has "source of error" written all over it.



  • (Sorry for the double post but the edit time window has run out.)

    I did as you said. Unfortunately, my Vivaldi still does not save passwords. Both the interface as well as the exported .csv show naught. Kind of seems like a rights-management-related issue to me.


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