how to disable "switch to the new tab immediately" when click "open new tab"



  • please help me, as what i wrote in the title above, sorry if this kind of question is already answered before cause i'm a newbie here


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    @yandhika25:

    please help me, as what i wrote in the title above, sorry if this kind of question is already answered before cause i'm a newbie here

    If you like, you can search the forums to see if a question has been answered. And, yes, this has been asked and answered 136 times. :)

    #137: You can't disable it. What you can do is use one of the four (count 'em, four) different methods to open a new tab in the background. 1) Right-click and select "Open in Background Tab" from the context menu. 2) Middle-click. 3) Ctrl+click (Cmd+click if you're on Mac). 4) Use a mouse gesture (you can make your own custom gesture for it).


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    @yandhika25:

    I'm a newbie here

    There are two search buttons at the top of the forum. The Search Button next to the Forum Rules Link is the best one to use.

    This forum lets you edit your posts at any time to fix broken links, typos, etc.



  • @Ayespy I appreciate your cynicism toward those of us who want to do things the way the majority of people do, but "four (count 'em, four) different methods to open a new tab in the background" doesn't help much. Anyone doing any kind of non-turtle-paced research (anyone other than newbs to the internet) learns quickly that the best way to find the best answer to something on the internet is to:

    1. search for it.
    2. review MANY different results as quickly as possible.
    3. narrow down results to the most usable.

    For step 2 it's critical to be able to open may results very quickly and THEN navigate to them. The idea that anyone would magically choose the perfect answer on the first try, is naive, at best. The idea that if we don't magically choose the best result on try number one that it must be a problem with our methods would be wildly ignorant (I'm not suggesting that is what you did, but the software, by bullying our choice, is suggesting it.)

    So while I appreciate that the small amount of users familiar with Opera/ etc. may like the forced, instant open of the very first thing chosen, hardly does that suggest its the 'best' way. Often it's just that sort of thinking that thwarts great innovation, right? You know this. In any UX priority list there are battles between what longtime users are "used to" and what native and intuitive experience suggests as the best way. If you look at Microsoft's "Ribbon" change back in like 2007, which MANY people, including myself, HATED when first introduced, you learn quickly that it's only 'not-better' for those already used to doing things a poorer way.

    And when you're speaking to people who know better, it's probably not good to suggest that something that would take about 2 hours to add a checkbox for, is something that might take months or more to get to. (referencing another reply to this request, and I have no idea if it was you or even someone from the devops team, so it's just a mention.)

    I am new to Vivaldi and am really happy with it and I've recommended it to many and will continue to... And personally, I'll get used to the workaround, but I've seen this (your?) quote "four (count 'em, four)" on more than one very reasonable request for a fix to this slightly bullying setting... And it's concerning that someone potentially with a handle on its improvements might be stuck in 'old ways' over 'better ways.'

    Cheers.


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    @chrispurser said in [ASK] how to disable "switch to the new tab immediately" when click "open new tab":

    For step 2 it's critical to be able to open may results very quickly and THEN navigate to them.

    I am not sure why you think that opening a link in a background tab does not achieve what you want.


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    @chrispurser: I'm sure an option to do it your way will be available at some point. The developers have other priorities right now.



  • @Pesala It does. It's not intuitive. The perfect way is to offer a single solution as the first one that is settable for the users. So those users who want forced activation of their first choice can have that, and those who want to open several first can do that, and neither of them have to look through a menu to get what works for them. :)



  • @chrispurser Well, I just use Mouse Gestures ( one for ForeGround and another for Background).


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    @chrispurser said in how to disable "switch to the new tab immediately" when click "open new tab":

    neither of them have to look through a menu to get what works for them

    No one has to look through a menu to open tabs in a background tab. They just have to read the help file, or ask on a forum such as this.

    If you want to open many links in background tabs, meaning ten or more, the Links Panel in old Opera was the most efficient way to do that. For half a dozen, middle-click, ctrl + click, or a mouse gesture is fine.

    My own preferred method is not to open any more tabs, but simply open the link in the current tab (presumably a Google search results page), read the page, then GestureLeft to return to the search results. I think that's much more efficient, especially if you find what you want at the first link.


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    We discussed this request internally and we like the idea but came to the conclusion that though it's possible to implement this feature, it would be very difficult to do it properly as opening links works differently on various websites. Let's imagine we add this feature and every single link you click on a page opens in the background. It would create a huge number of opened tabs and take quite some resources and time to manage and close them all would amount to more than spending a second more to use already available options. Furthermore, it would cause issues or even break many websites. For example, going through the process of paying for online purchases. When each click opens a new tab there are so many things that could go wrong resulting in a failed transaction or double payment.

    In the meantime, there are many extensions out there that attempt to do this, but most of them are buggy and/or cause more harm than good. However, you can try the extensions out yourself by adding them to Vivaldi from Chrome Web Store. One that seems to work is LongClick New Tab. Please give us more feedback about how you expect the behavior to function.

    Also, why is Ctrl + click or a mouse gesture that are already available not an option for you?

    We'd definitely like to hear from you and other users how exactly you do imagine this feature working and how it would handle different scenarios.


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    @gaelle said in how to disable "switch to the new tab immediately" when click "open new tab":

    Also why is Ctrl + click or a mouse gesture that are already available not an option for you?

    For me it is the preferred method to use both mouse and keyboard as I only ever work on a desktop PC. However, Ctrl+Click is not a good option for those who don't always have their hands on a keyboard.

    Those who use only the mouse can assign mouse gestures to "Open Link in New Tab (Over a Link)" and "Open Link in Background Tab (Over a Link). It is only slightly harder than single LMB click to perform GestureDown over a link.

    Opera 12.18 has a setting "Reuse Current Tab," which overrides website targets "Open in new window." I don't think that would solve this particular problem, but it does limit the number of new tabs opened by making it a specific request rather than the default behaviour.

    Feature Request: Option to Open New Tabs in Background as Default


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