Suggestions to improve Tab Stacking


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    I have few suggestions about tab stacking. I'm using default Vivaldi interface (tab bar on top, etc.). 1. Especially when I have a lot of tabs in one stack, it is more comfortable to use Tab previews instead of thin bars above tabs to activate the desired tab. But it's very hard to understand which tab is currently active, because the active tab is not highlighted (see the screenshot in the spoiler). I suggest to highlight the current tab in the tab preview. [spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/gdwEB3B.png[/img][/spoiler] 2. On Windows 10 (I don't know, maybe on other operating systems too) when you work in not maximized window, it's very difficult to use thin bars above stacked tabs, because they are very close to the windows edge and mouse pointer changing to resize cursor. I suggest to add more space above tabs in none maximized windows (like in Opera), to activate stacked tabs and also move the browser window easier. [spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/lqhbdcW.png[/img][/spoiler] 3. It would be nice to have an option to move the tabs inside stack. 4. As you can see in the first screenshot, there are tab previews inside tab previews for some tabs. I think this is a bug. Thanks for attention!



  • There's a new Feature Requests thread. for Vivaldi 1.5.

    1. Yes, Popup Thumbnails are the best way to use large tab stacks, but I don't see why you need to identify the active tab (which you can already see, and presumably don't want to select). If you cannot identify the target tab, that's the issue that needs to be addressed. (large thumbnails?)

    2. I suggest not even trying to use a non-maximised window with a stack of 20 tabs. It's never going to be easy. Use the Tab Cycler (Right-click mouse wheel or Ctrl + Tab).

    3. Frequently requested to move tabs within stacks

    4. Most glitches like this can be worked around by refreshing a tab. If you have a clear recipe, report a bug.


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    @Pesala:

    There's a new Feature Requests thread. for Vivaldi 1.5.

    OK, I will take into account.

    @Pesala:

    1. Yes, Popup Thumbnails are the best way to use large tab stacks, but I don't see why you need to identify the active tab (which you can already see, and presumably don't want to select). If you cannot identify the target tab, that's the issue that needs to be addressed. (large thumbnails?)

    I consider it necessary, for same reason that it is necessary to see the highlighted active tab outside of stack which we also see and don't want to select. ;)

    @Pesala:

    2. I suggest not even trying to use a non-maximised window with a stack of 20 tabs. It's never going to be easy. Use the Tab Cycler (Right-click mouse wheel or Ctrl + Tab).

    Usually I use maximized window, but sometimes I need to restore down it without resizing it too small.
    However, despite the number of stacked tabs it is very difficult to aim the mouse pointer to the right place and select desired tab from the stack, because it is very close to the window resize zone. In my second screenshot you can see the stack with only two tabs, but the pointer is Vertical Resize pointer.

    The Tab Cycler is useless, because it shows maximum 7 tabs.
    The tab cycling with mouse scroll and Alt key is useful in this case, but I still consider necessary to have more space above tabs in non-maximized window (for tab stacks and moving Vivaldi window when tab bar is full).



  • @RammsteinAM:

    The Tab Cycler is useless, because it shows maximum 7 tabs.

    The tab cycler is far from being useless. It shows all tabs, but only seven at a time. The active tab is obvious as it has no thumbnail. I would not want to use it with hundreds of tabs, but I guess that if you open it from within a large tab stack, you can easily cycle to the desired tab to select it.

    Tabs that are not in the stack are also shown. Each tab displays a favicon in the bottom right corner to indicate the domain.

    [attachment=4466]TabCycler.png[/attachment]

    [attachment=4468]TabCycler3.png[/attachment]
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    I know about that. But, I mean, it is useless for me, because I use Tab cycling in Recently used order. ))
    I have to use cycling in Tab order, to see the stacked tabs side by side in Cycler.
    The cycler does not even show the titles for all tabs, only for current one.

    I would rather use the tab cycling with mouse scroll by hovering the tab bar, because it cycles with tab order even if Cycling set to Recently used order. :)



  • @RammsteinAM:

    3. It would be nice to have an option to move the tabs inside stack.

    Together with the ability to move tabs in and out of stacks, for me this would be essential.



  • @goedl:

    Together with the ability to move tabs in and out of stacks, for me this would be essential.

    That's already possible using 1.5.618.8 (Developer Build) (32-bit) on Windows 10 64-bit, but it is not as easy as it should be to move tabs out of a stack.

    Move Tab Out of Stack

    [attachment=4631]MoveOutofStack.png[/attachment]

    Move Tab into Stack

    [attachment=4632]MoveintoStack.png[/attachment]
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  • Now that we have the ability to move tabs in and out of stacks, all we need is to be able to rearrange those tabs withIN the stack, and to have O12's exact vertical list tab cycler capabilities. Then we would have ultimate tab control and navigation, most out of any browser ever existed.

    Of course, the dragging of tabs outside of their stacks still need to be optimized, as I've tried it, and when I just leave the tab thumbnail there without releasing it, the tabs to the left and right move in and out. It's strange, but once that's optimized, it'll be good.

    Can't wait to get ultimate tab control and navigation!



  • @Pesala:

    @goedl:

    Together with the ability to move tabs in and out of stacks, for me this would be essential.

    That's already possible using 1.5.618.8 (Developer Build) (32-bit) on Windows 10 64-bit, but it is not as easy as it should be to move tabs out of a stack.

    Thanks for the heads up. I didn't realized that this feature was added.

    That's great. So there is hope that we will also be able to rearrange the tabs within the stack.
    Together with a more robust thumbnail management (as a replacement for the unfolding of a stack as in O12) I can envision a behavior I will like.



  • I use tab stacking occasionally, so am not always thinking about it, and am annoyed if I'm rearranging tabs and accidentally drop a tab on top of another, inadvertently creating a tab stack.

    I'd love to see the ability to keep tab stacking turned on, but disable dropping one tab on top of another to initiate a tab stack. I'm much more prone to highlight multiple tabs and stack them with the right-click menu.


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