Questions for Vivaldi on Linux



  • Recently, I've had a new update to Windows 10 mess up my C: drive and now it's corrupted. While I'm waiting for a friend to get back to me with a fresh copy of W10 on a USB, I've installed Linux Mint Cinnamon 18(Sarah) on dual-boot. So right now, I'm using Vivaldi on Linux, and it's a bit different than on W10. I have a few questions and things that I'd like to fix that weren't issues on W10: - Some YouTube videos seem to cause Vivaldi to flicker. Is there a vivaldi://flags setting or something to fix this? - Vivaldi doesn't respect my mouse cursor theme look. I have DMZ-black used, and the mouse cursor turns white on Vivaldi. Can this be fixed? - Vivaldi also uses different window control buttons than other Linux Mint window control buttons. I know this is probably because there are so many distros that you can't bother to make window control buttons for every distro, but it would be great Mint and other popular distros could at least have their own buttons on Vivaldi. Is there a way to get the Mint's window control buttons on Vivaldi that I don't know about? I use the new Mint-Y theme in Cinnamon 18. I try to use native window with the Subtle theme with a lighter accent color to make it look more like other Mint-Y windows. - Context menus seem to be in Arial, when I would think they should be in Noto Sans, Mint's default font. Is there a way to change it? - Where is the Default folder in Mint? It doesn't seem to be in the same place as it would be in Windows 10, and I'm trying to get back my bookmarks, notes, passwords, etc. I have to say that so far, I really love Linux Mint Cinnamon 18. Linux is world's above Windows in so many ways. For example, Mint Cinnamon's UI is far better than W10, especially with the new Mint-Y theme, and it's file manager is far superior than W10's file manager. A lot of that stuff reminds me of the Mac, as I had a 2009 Macbook Pro, and I find Linux is kind of similar to the Mac in a lot of ways. Man, I could write for a long time on how much I'm enjoying Mint over W10 at this point, and if any of you Linux users want to talk about that, feel free to do so. I actually like using my computer for more than just the browser for the first time in a while! Though Vivaldi does make my laptop a little hot when Firefox doesn't.



  • @D0J0P:

    • Some YouTube videos seem to cause Vivaldi to flicker. Is there a vivaldi://flags setting or something to fix this?

    I don't think I've seen this.

    Try:
    sudo apt-get -y install chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra
    sudo apt-get -y install pepperflashplugin-nonfree

    Although, you're probably using HTML5 video. But you can give it a shot.

    • Vivaldi doesn't respect my mouse cursor theme look. I have DMZ-black used, and the mouse cursor turns white on Vivaldi. Can this be fixed?

    I've noticed this issue as well. I few programs do this.

    • Vivaldi also uses different window control buttons than other Linux Mint window control buttons. I know this is probably because there are so many distros that you can't bother to make window control buttons for every distro, but it would be great Mint and other popular distros could at least have their own buttons on Vivaldi. Is there a way to get the Mint's window control buttons on Vivaldi that I don't know about? I use the new Mint-Y theme in Cinnamon 18. I try to use native window with the Subtle theme with a lighter accent color to make it look more like other Mint-Y windows.

    Tools –> Settings --> Use Native Window

    • Where is the Default folder in Mint? It doesn't seem to be in the same place as it would be in Windows 10, and I'm trying to get back my bookmarks, notes, passwords, etc.

    If you're using the snapshots stream:
    ~/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default

    If you're using the stable stream:
    ~/.config/vivaldi/Default

    ~/ is your /home/username folder.

    I don't think you can get passwords. But bookmarks and notes you can transfer between Windows and Linux.

    I have to say that so far, I really love Linux Mint Cinnamon 18. Linux is world's above Windows in so many ways. For example, Mint Cinnamon's UI is far better than W10, especially with the new Mint-Y theme, and it's file manager is far superior than W10's file manager. A lot of that stuff reminds me of the Mac, as I had a 2009 Macbook Pro, and I find Linux is kind of similar to the Mac in a lot of ways.

    Man, I could write for a long time on how much I'm enjoying Mint over W10 at this point, and if any of you Linux users want to talk about that, feel free to do so. I actually like using my computer for more than just the browser for the first time in a while! Though Vivaldi does make my laptop a little hot when Firefox doesn't.

    I've recently made the switch as well. A lot to learn, but I'm starting to become more comfortable using it. Occasionally get frustrated because I have to spend a lot of time to run down some issue. But I think I'm comfortable primarily using Linux Mint now.

    I do really like the Mint-Y dark theme. It took some time to find good replacements for a lot of the programs I've used on Windows for years. For the most part I think I've managed to find alternates.

    I never really pay attention to how many typos I make until I start using the terminal.

    I still boot into Windows for games or to play a Blu Ray. But other than that, I really don't use Windows much anymore.



  • Teehee, welcome to the wonderful Mint mecca, peoples. Personally i much prefer Mint KDE & Xfce over Cinnamon, but Cinnamon is for some reason regarded as the Mint flagship & seems to be the default choice for many Mint newbies. Personally i don't understand that as IMO KDE is far better, & for lower spec PCs Xfce is also better IMO. However the wonderful fabbo thing about the Linux multiverse, compared to the Windows narrowverse, is that we have sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much choice available. I hope you find your ongoing time "here" really fun & satisfying. As i have written elsewhere, after a lifetime as a Windows user who decided to begin exploring this odd beastie called "Linux" back in 2013, & who became so entranced by it that she chose to move here full-time in 2014, i could never go back to the narrowverse. I have many VMs in my Tower, specifically so i can taste-test a multitude of interesting Linux distros, but also one of them holds my Win7 VM that became upgraded to Win10… i hardly ever need or want to boot it up these days, but when i do, it feels so... constrained & boring.

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    My on-SSD OS = Linux Mint x64 17.3 KDE 4.14.2.

    PS - Oh, D0J0P, you said Cinnamon's "file manager is far superior than W10's file manager". Well, if you are impressed by it, you won't believe how amazingly powerful & useful KDE's f/m "Dolphin" is. I was truly gobsmacked when i first tried KDE back in early 2014 [when i was still deciding which Linux distro to choose as my fulltime OS] & discovered this gem.



  • Thanks ugly, I'll check out those links when I hit Linux next. I'm still dual-booting both OSs, and I finally have Windows up and running again.

    I can pretty much use native window in Vivaldi, and then tweak the theme to make the accent color the same color that Linux Mint Cinnamon Mint-Y theme is using, though it'll end up with a small gradient. It seems Vivaldi now uses a gradient in their UI, huh?

    And the mouse cursor thing . . . don't know how to fix that, it's annoying.

    The switch is really interesting. I absolutely love Mint's UI, and it's ease of use compared to Windows. I've had some issues though. I'm on an HP laptop with Beats Audio(from before Apple bought them), and I noticed the audio didn't sound as good on Linux as it did in Windows. This was gonna be a bit of a deal breaker from switching full time. I did finally get pulseaudio-equalizer, and changed the setting to "soft". It sounds much better. I'm still looking for good custom presets, so if you guys have any, show them to me. I'd like to get the best audio I can for all music, but "soft" sounds pretty universally good!

    While it is a bit tough to set up, once it's set up, I'll have a great OS to work on. One of the other issues I'm having is resizing my partitions. I want to resize my home partition, because I thought that the system would be using the root partition(silly me, but at least I set a good 30GB for the root partition), and I now have half a gig left in my home partition with everything needed installed. Ouch! I'm using Gparted for that, but it's causing me trouble. I can't seem to figure out an easy way to move unneeded data from my Windows partition onto my home partition.

    I also want to resize my swap partition, which I only delegated just under a gig for. I have 6GB of RAM, so I'm guessing I should put 16GB of swap data on it?

    Other than that, I absolutely love the way they laid out the UI, it's tooltips, it's menus, buttons, everything is just so logically and carefully laid out. And with the universal Cinnamon windows, everything has the consistent window borders and everything, unlike W10, which is more schizophrenic than me, more so than me! Uh . . .

    And Steffie, thanks for welcoming me too! I thought you would ;) . I think I used some distro with KDE on it like a year or two ago. I wanted to try it on a USB as I found out it had Plasma 5 on it. Personally, I don't love that look so much. I think if I tried it right now, I'd probably think the look was fine, the windows look nice, the window border buttons look nice, but I hate the flat, cheap icons. Would I be able to get the stock Cinnamon icons on Mint KDE? They kind of look like Feince/Faenza(hope I spelled them right) icons. I think they look very nice and closest to what you'd find on the Mac. Skeumorphic, photorealistic, professional icons. That's how I like my icons, and with flat borders with shadows around them.

    I also like rounded corners everywhere. Can KDE be tweaked to have that? I wonder if Cinnamon can do that as well. I don't know, but I'm sure there must be some tweak tool to install that I could do something like that.

    On the file managers, I can get other kinds like Nautilus and Dolphin in the Software Manager, though I like the basic Nemo that comes with Cinnamon. It's simple enough, yet organized, which is great! I might still like to try Nautilus or Dolphin sometime though.

    I remember trying out Linux on live USBs many times last year and early this year. Every single time I though "Hmm, still not ready for me yet". My WiFi card, Broadcom, wasn't supported very well at all at the time, but since they're probably in the Linux Kernel 4.4, my WiFi card has much better support and the WiFi is as good here as on Windows!

    Yeah, once I test the audio some more to my satisfaction, and if I can get the partitioning to work, then I'll be very happy to start using Linux Mint full-time, while having Windows there in case any OS goes weird on me, but Mint is going to be very stable!



  • hello D0J0P
    thrilled to see You trialing GNU/linux. mepiscommunity discussion yesterday is seen kmathern, "…MX-15 has a BroadcomStartup script... The August snapshots... have an updated BroadcomStartup script...would you be willing to give that a try?" Also, trial gparted package for disc management.
    hello Miss Steffie the cinnamon is so comfortable; like it is Vista-ish; too comfortable. kde4 is great. kde5 is like WinTen. Xfce4 might be the most customizable today. fluxbox works for us.



  • @i_ri:

    kde4 is great. kde5 is like WinTen. Xfce4 might be the most customizable today. fluxbox works for us.

    The most customizzable is still Trinity (the modern flavour of KDE 3.X)



  • i_ri,

    Thanks for the welcome. I now really see the appeal of GNU/Linux, and I love the direction it's going in. Cinnamon is an amazing DE, and I'm glad I picked it. It's simple to use, and feature-packed enough that it's useful. IMO, that's the perfect happy medium for any user to use as their daily driver.

    On the BroadcomStartup script, do you mean my Broadcom WiFi driver? Mint already supports it if I go to the Drivers section of my settings, but I'd like to check out what you mean. Do you have a link to it?

    Steffie, I decided to check out Mint KDE 18(Beta) on a live USB, to see what you mean about it. I agree that it's very customizable. I wish even Cinnamon had those customization options. But IMO, KDE was very hard to use, which was always a problem I had with KDE. I don't know. It's application menu doesn't seem as simple yet nice as Cinnamons, everything like the settings seems a bit cluttered so even it's customization options feel hard to navigate around. It's too bad because I do like some of the aesthetics like the window buttons. It's also missing some keyboard shortcuts like ctrl + alt T for Terminal(Konsole, they call it in KDE), though I can probably add those in, I cut my time short on it.

    But I can see why you'd like it for it's options. It's just too cluttered for me. I wish Cinnamon had the same options KDE had in it's own settings, because it would be so easy to navigate through it in Cinnamon.

    I also tried Fedora on a live USB last week because I've always liked the sort of Mac-like UIs(I had a MBP in 2009, and I miss that layout). There are some useful options that look like it's missing, but maybe I can add those by downloading things like the tweak tool. At least I found it quite easy to use, and pleasant. Though I'll need to connect my laptop to the router next time I use it, because I found it's stock options kind of incomplete.

    Cinnamon seems to be complete enough out of the box, while still being easy to use, like Gnome 3.2 was.

    Right now, I'm thinking of getting another sound card for my laptop, because Linux doesn't play well with my Realtek/Beats Audio sound card. Does anyone know if this sound card would work with Linux? http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-audigy-fx

    I want to switch to Linux full time, so I might do so when I get a sound card that can make audio on Linux perform as well as it would on Windows 10.

    And here's an interesting video I found on the future for Windows 7 users, and what it possibly has to do with Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T99WYqYp9Y

    I sure hope after 2020, we'll see a lot more Linux transition, that's for sure.



  • hello D0J0P and everyone
    persistence features live. MX-15stabledebiantix,xfce4. installs in many languages.
    see Community_Respins_Directory for August Core or kde. love the installer.
    August files have new BroadcomStartup automatic scripts. would you wish to trial.
    http://mxrepo.com/snapshots/
    explore MX-15 from mepiscommunity.org
    x64torrent
    http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=740ad2b637358002b5dd905c155f65f31242c6b4&f=MX-15_x64.torrent&key=0



  • hello D0J0P and christian and everyone
    .Vivaldi on:



  • Solus is a good Linux Mint Cinnamon alternative i think.
    https://solus-project.com/

    Solus Review

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG1PREo-bPY



  • Hi i_ri, Cinnamon is not "comfortable" at all for me, au contraire it feels like i am in a tight digital straitjacket with it. It is so very tied down & locked up, affording the user comparatively few options for tinkering & customisation. Similarly all distros built on GNOME3 are repellent to me, & so i eschew them. As an inveterate tinkerer & explorer, KDE simply embraced & cossetted me when i first discovered it. I definitely appreciate that it is far from being everyone's cup of tea, but that's fine… as i said earlier, the really wonderful thing about Linux is the wide range of distros, DMs & WMs available to us. Nobody has to be "right" here [those silly black & white arguments bore me], as we can ALL "be right" simply by finding the combo that works for us individually. I mean, how good is that? IMO it's fabulous.

    Thanks to The_Solutor for the Trinity mention; i'll need to add that to the pile of distros i wanna d/l & play with in a VM, to keep on learning & enjoying.

    D0J0P, per above i totally get it that KDE might not be comfy for you & that's absolutely perfectly fine as only you know what's best for you. As long as you find something that floats your boat, nobody else's opinion matters. In future if you have time & interest, you might have lots of fun taste-testing various other Linux flavours as well. One you might examine is Mint 18 Xfce, with Compiz desktop manager. It's pretty impressive, though i still lean towards KDE for my best fit. BTW i don't disagree with your view on the standard KDE Applications Menu [either in my current KDE4, or the new Plasma 5 to which i'll be soon converting]. The Whisker Menu in Xfce, & Linux Lite [also worthy of you looking at] is very good in comparison, but seems incompatible with Plasma 5 Maui Linux i made this morning, but it's incompatible, unsurprisingly]. Finally, i agree with your pulseaudio-equalizer liking, & the fact that Linux seems woefully understocked with good audio utilities like this. As i've been recently researching & preparing for my upgrade from Mint 17.3 KDE4 to [probably] Mint 18 Plasma 5 [on my Tower, though my Lappy might still end up instead with Mint 18 Xfce+Compiz], i was distraught to discover that pulseaudio-equalizer is incompatible with P5. At the moment i haven't worked out what i'll do, as the prospect of losing my nice equaliser post-upgrade is very unappealing.

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    My on-SSD OS = Linux Mint x64 17.3 KDE 4.14.2... for now



  • hello D0J0P and christian and everyone
    is the screen flickering gone on your machine, by trying another system live trial?
    does the mint or any other trials give flicker?
    hello Miss Steffie
    You are right. It is fabulous good. When saying cinnamon is "too comfortable" is agreeing with being like a comfortable overstuffed easy-chair that you are stuck in and cannot get out. you went direct to straitjacket.



  • @Steffie:

    … i was distraught to discover that pulseaudio-equalizer is incompatible with P5. At the moment i haven't worked out what i'll do, as the prospect of losing my nice equaliser post-upgrade is very unappealing.

    …........................................................................................................
    My on-SSD OS = Linux Mint x64 17.3 KDE 4.14.2... for now

    Woohoo, yay – SOLVED!! http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html -- "Update: the equalizer was updated to support Ubuntu 15.04, 15.10, and 16.04."

    So now i do have my lovely equaliser available in 16.04, hence the Mint 18s. Yabberdabberdoooooooooo.



  • That's great that you love KDE, Steffie. I wish Cinnamon also had all of those features that KDE had, so there are some really good things about KDE. I just decided to try it again a week ago, and man, I wish I could like it. I tried hard to like it. It's just a little too cluttered and cumbersome. I love the Mint Cinnamon's philosophy to design, which is to make even advanced things simpler and easier to do, and make everything simple and useful, just like Vivaldi. Of course, there are some things I don't love about Cinnamon, and that's the fact that I can't delete pulseaudio. Cinnamon depends on pulseaudio, so I can't just delete it and try using ALSA completely instead. I tried doing that to see if my audio would sound better, but it just took away my audio completely.

    But I see that you're now on 16.04, which must mean you upgraded to Linux Mint 18 now? How do you like it? I like it now because 18 can support my wireless drivers, whereas 17.2 didn't have good support for it.

    Anyway, back on pulseaudio. But I did install the pulseaudio-equalizer, and I think after getting used to the sound, I can hear that it is at least on par to the sound that I get from Windows 10 with Beats Audio/Realtek/Intel HDA.

    It's not as clear sounding as W10, but it sounds more airy, warm, and bassy. I like the Live setting on pulseaudio-equalizer.

    I think I got the YouTube video flickering handled, and everything seems to be working well with Vivaldi, except it does make my laptop run slightly hot compared to on W10. Anyone know what I can do about that?

    Also, anyone know how I can replace the scrollbar with Mint Cinnamon Mint-Y theme's scrollbar?

    There is also a gradient I notice on Vivaldi's background, which is noticeable when you have the theme on Subtle or something. Anyone know how to remove that gradient?

    And anyone know how to fix the mouse cursor so that it turns black like I have with my system theme?

    There is another weird problem that I have where scrolling up and down webpages has this weird ripple effect like in Firefox. This doesn't occur at all in Vivaldi on Windows 10, but it happens to me on Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.



  • Sorry that i can't help you with any Cinnamon-specific hassles. Given of course that we're on the Vivaldi fora here not Mint, if you've not already done so i'd thoroughly recommend joining in the Mint fora, & specifically the Cinnamon strand. I get lots of help there.

    Re your "16.04" query. After my several weeks of VM testing, last week i proceeded to upgrade Lappy from Mint 17.3 KDE4 to Mint 18 Xfce+Compiz, & the result is really outstanding!!! My focus now is what to do for Tower? Follow Lappy down the Mint 18 Xfce path, go for Mint 18 KDE & just stomach its many Plasma 5.6.5 problems AND endure the annoying loss of Root Actions, or leave Mint for Maui Linux with its better Plasma 5.7.5 AND Root Actions?

    For Tower i have a persistent feeling of wanting to keep a KDE DE. Lappy’s comparatively slow i5 cpu & especially its restrictive 8 GB RAM meant that Mint 17.3 KDE4 was always labouring, & giving the hardware a really tough time, hence changing to the lighter [but still powerful & eye-candy’ish] Xfce c/o its Compiz made sense. But my Tower has such great specs [deliberately so] that resource-limitations are not a factor, & KDE remains so damn impressively integrated; i still think it’s an amazing DE, notwithstanding my disappointment that Plasma5 has ditched the individual VD wallpapers & widgets. In so many other ways it’s still a very desirable capable fine-tunable DE to have & enjoy.

    For the past few days i've been fairly strongly leaning towards Maui, as it'd been seriously impressive in my VM tests. Furthermore, as it's tied into Neon it will continue to get frequent Plasma5 updates, whereas Mint 18 KDE frustrates me by their design decision to tie it to Kubuntu backports, hence Mint is still stuck on the rather lousy Plasma 5.6.5 with [IMO] no imminent likelihood of progressing. However Tower is my workhorse, whereas Lappy is [these days] mostly just a plaything with which to stream Netflix & my local TV. If my migration butchered Lappy i'd have been annoyed but it wouldn't have been a killer. However the stakes are higher for Tower, so before i [if i] do take the leap to Maui there's still more testing i will do to maximise my chance of success.

    I know this isn't relevant to you due to the different Mint distro, but FYI Vivaldi SS & Stable work just fine on Lappy Mint 18 Xfce [both of course also work fine on Tower, but as that's still "only" Mint 17.3 KDE that "doesn't count" in this context].

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    Tower's SSD OS = Linux Mint x64 17.3 KDE 4.14.2... for now...
    Lappy's SSD OS = Linux Mint x64 18 Xfce+Compiz [> 18/9/16]



  • @D0J0P:

    • Vivaldi doesn't respect my mouse cursor theme look. I have DMZ-black used, and the mouse cursor turns white on Vivaldi. Can this be fixed?

    Seems to be fixed now. Just noticed today. So the latest snapshot should fix it.



  • I just started using Linux Mint and want to include Vivaldi as my browser. The machine I want to use it on is a 32 bit desktop. The Vivaldi web site recommends using the 64 bit version. Can I use 64 bit Vivaldi on a32 bit computer? Or are they saying that is the preferred version, assuming you have a 64 bit machine? In which case, I would download the 32 bit version for my 32 bit machine. Your advice?


  • Moderator

    You have to use 32-bit Vivaldi on 32-bit Linux.



  • About the flickering, if that's still an issue, you can try and disable vsync. Start Vivaldi from a terminal with the flag –disable-gpu-vsync or edit that into your start menu entry. This might put a little more strain on the CPU. If you have an on-board graphics card and an Nvidia one, maybe try running Vivialdi with Bumblebee/optirun? There have been some other threads about this, such as here - search around on the forum for flashing or flickering.

    As for your swap file: as I understood it, it's not terribly important unless you want to hibernate your machine, which places the content of the RAM in the swap partition. In that case you only need to match your RAM - 6GB for you. Standard recommendation is/was twice the size of your RAM but for anything over 4GB I think that recommendation is 1.5 times the RAM. Either way, 16GB seems excessive.

    You also mentioned something about moving unneeded data from your Windows partition to your home partition - can't you just copy-paste? My Windows-parition is recognised by Dolphin with read and write access, I don't remember ever mounting it or anything. It also shows up in the /media folder.



  • Thanks for the reply about 32 vs 64 bit.


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