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      Catweazle @Ayespy
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      @Ayespy, it's because of the icons, somewhat Disney, but I refer to the concept of the Desktop it has.

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      @Stardust said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Catweazle said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Stardust, I like the UI of the SSuite Netsurf, maybe as inspiration for our geeks to create some mods

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      that screenshot looks like from 2000x

      They look like one of the old Opera icon sets (pre v12) to me...

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      mikeyb2001 Supporters Ambassador @mossman
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      @mossman said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Stardust said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Catweazle said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Stardust, I like the UI of the SSuite Netsurf, maybe as inspiration for our geeks to create some mods

      alt text

      that screenshot looks like from 2000x

      They look like one of the old Opera icon sets (pre v12) to me...

      That's probably intentional considering the user base that originally jumped ship from Opera to Vivaldi

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      RadekPilich
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      After a few days of distancing I've pulled the trigger and updated to 7.x.

      All good here - theme, menu and icon customizations, tabs.... everything seems to have survived.

      The browser is noticeably faster, especially in previously troublesome area of drag an dropping vertical tabs in windows with over 1.000 tabs.

      Great work folks!

      EDIT: First random crash within 15 minutes. Well, it was nice while it lasted 😄

      Win 11 with latest Vivaldi snapshot, OnePlus 9 Pro Android 14 with latest regular Vivaldi update.

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      Ayespy Soprano Moderator @RadekPilich
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      @RadekPilich I don't get what people are doing to get random crashes. In multiple versions on multiple machines, I just can't reproduce that. It doesn't happen. There have to be local differences in setup or behavior that can cause this.

      Volunteer Mod and tester on Windows 11 Home X64, i7-13700 @ 5.4 GHz turbo; Intel UHD 770 graphics; 1TB NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD; 32 GB DDR4-3200 RAM. Community Code of Conduct

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      RadekPilich
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      I was clicking my "next workspace" toolbar button several times in row.

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      Ayespy Soprano Moderator @RadekPilich
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      @RadekPilich How many workspaces do you run?

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      Catweazle
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      @Leuchte812, Newspapers and magazines are best added as Feed. Although you do not use the email client and Vivaldi Calendar, you can activate them and hide the corresponding icons, leaving only the Feed Reader. This in the Dashboard updates the latest headlines at an interval that you can configure, e.g. every day.

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      RadekPilich @Ayespy
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      @Ayespy 20-25

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      Ayespy Soprano Moderator @RadekPilich
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      @RadekPilich Keeriminy. I once had two workspaces. I can't imagine how I could possibly make use of 20 of them. But I will make 20 of them in one of my instances, and see if I can reproduce your crash. About how many tabs do you have in each workspace?

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      mib2berlin Soprano @RadekPilich
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      @RadekPilich
      I guess this was a OOM (Out of Memory) crash, Vivaldi kind of reload all tabs in a workspace if you change.
      Some users report slowdown of changing workspaces.
      The developer working on a fix fix some other issues in the workspace code too.
      I hope we get it in one of the next 7.0 updates.

      Cheers, mib

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      Ayespy Soprano Moderator @RadekPilich
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      @RadekPilich So I tried to open 20 workspaces with 3-20 (average of about 10) tabs apiece. I got to 16 workspaces before everything was just freezing up so bad, I had to stop. It simply consumed more resources than my pretty powerful laptop could easily provide. This is an Intel i7 with 8GB DDR4 RAM, and 16 workspaces was just too much. I suspect the solution would be to hibernate any workspace you're not in. Jumping from workspace to workspace makes Vivaldi try to keep them all open. And running 20 workspaces would be keeping hundreds of tabs open all the time. I could not produce a crash, but I could for sure produce a freeze.

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      yngve Vivaldi Team @Ayespy
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      @Ayespy My guess: Your machine started swapping to disk, which can slow down performance to a crawl at the best of times.

      Developer and Security Expert at Vivaldi.

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      @jon My first post shouldn't be about spiting the browser I love... but it is. The new design NEEDS a way to go back.

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      mikeyb2001 Supporters Ambassador @dogbreath
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      @dogbreath look for compact in the settings

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      mib2berlin Soprano @dogbreath
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      @dogbreath
      Just search the forum, there are 20 threads about.
      https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/102198/guide-v7-user-interface/

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      Ayespy Soprano Moderator @yngve
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      @yngve I'm sure you're right.

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      RadekPilich @Ayespy
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      @Ayespy 64GB RAM here, I am well aware that I wouldn't be able to run 20 workspaces with 1500 tabs with less than 32GB RAM.

      Win 11 with latest Vivaldi snapshot, OnePlus 9 Pro Android 14 with latest regular Vivaldi update.

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      mossman Ambassador @mikeyb2001
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      @mikeyb2001 said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @mossman said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Stardust said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Catweazle said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @Stardust, I like the UI of the SSuite Netsurf, maybe as inspiration for our geeks to create some mods

      alt text

      that screenshot looks like from 2000x

      They look like one of the old Opera icon sets (pre v12) to me...

      That's probably intentional considering the user base that originally jumped ship from Opera to Vivaldi

      What has that got to do with icons in SSuite Netsurf? 😕

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      mossman Ambassador @Ayespy
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      @Ayespy said in A New Vivaldi – A Whole New Browsing Experience:

      @RadekPilich I don't get what people are doing to get random crashes. In multiple versions on multiple machines, I just can't reproduce that. It doesn't happen. There have to be local differences in setup or behavior that can cause this.

      1000 tabs, maybe?

      I honestly do not understand tab hoarding at all. That's what bookmarks are for! (Edit: and reading list for what you might call "temporary bookmarks".)

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