Sign in for sync?



  • So I hear all this hype about vivaldi and finally browse to the site to check it out and there is this video on the vavaldi website about how spectacular this new web browser is. So, I proceeded to download it and try it out. I Didn't browse too far until I'm meet with websites which want me to login. Like the many I have, social media, banking, utility sites, ect..So obliviously, my next though is, let me just import my Chrome browser settings or at least sign in so I can just do the same on my work computer and not have to go though the pain of looking up usernames and setting the same settings on my work computer. So after looking all around this new so called best browser ever, I am unable to find this. This is a huge deal breaker for me as I can sign into Chrome and my stuff in synced on all of my computers. So can someone advise me if I am missing something here?


  • Moderator

    And Syncing may need a huge infrastructure of servers. Sync to Google and Sync to other sources ist not implemented yet. Sorry to say.
    But it will come. It is a planned feature.


  • Moderator

    So Vivaldi's operations are somewhat similar to Chrome because both Vivaldi and Chrome use the Chromium engine. However, Vivaldi UI and Chrome UI are built with different technologies, Vivaldi has different settings options, different file structure, and different capabilities from Chrome. Hence, sync between these two differently-structured browsers is not possible. Although they use the same engine, they operate differently, and the bookmarks. settings, etc. of one cannot be transferred to the other.



  • @Ayespy Yeah what you said doesn't really make a lot of sense, especially the part about bookmarks. People have been importing/exporting bookmarks to/from every browser known to man since browsers existed. It's always been a trivial part of the setup process.

    I understand syncing is different than import/export, but lets be honest, how much more complicated is the bookmark system that you can't sync folders with links to another service with folders and links (rhetorical)? Not very much.

    Also you directly contradict the other mod that replied just before you.



  • You both contradict each other, what's the actual answer here? Will there be syncing with things like google or not? Frankly that's what's holding me back also. I mean think about it, with such rich customization, there's no way I'm going to customize the shit out of Vivaldi if I have to manually somehow sync my settings between all my computers.

    This is just my opinion, but it seems to me like this should be the most important feature at this point. At least some sort of syncing through cloud storage providers if you can't dig up the infrastructure to power syncing settings (Though, is your user base big enough for that to matter? I have over 150k users on a service I run, and I can pay it out of pocket...space is cheap). Hell, most cloud providers let you map a folder locally they automatically sync, just let us dump our settings into a folder like that and (on windows, don't know about linux) watch the file for changes and reload the config as it updates.

    Anyways, I've tried 3 times now, and dropped it because of this, I'm really looking forward to having this implemented in some way.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @jdavis1029 said in Sign in for sync?:

    So I hear all this hype about vivaldi and finally browse to the site to check it out and there is this video on the vavaldi website about how spectacular this new web browser is. So, I proceeded to download it and try it out. I Didn't browse too far until I'm meet with websites which want me to login. Like the many I have, social media, banking, utility sites, ect..So obliviously, my next though is, let me just import my Chrome browser settings or at least sign in so I can just do the same on my work computer and not have to go though the pain of looking up usernames and setting the same settings on my work computer. So after looking all around this new so called best browser ever, I am unable to find this. This is a huge deal breaker for me as I can sign into Chrome and my stuff in synced on all of my computers. So can someone advise me if I am missing something here?

    You are not missing anything, and we want to make sure we are not missing anything either before we release sync. Remember we are dealing with our user's data and we do want to make sure that we do sync right so we all feel comfortable using it. We know how important this feature is, but will not rush it although we are being pushed hard from users to deliver it. Same for e-mail. Also a service that will store private data that we want to make sure only you have access to. So bear with us. Sync will come as soon as we are ready, but not before that time.

    //Christian - Vivaldi Technologies.



  • Hi everyone, I was able to sync my vivaldi windows settings/bookmarks/everything to vivaldi mac. But this can be the worst thing to do but it worked.

    Copy content on Windows../User/AppData/Local/Vivaldi/User Data/Default
    to
    Mac../Users/UserName/Library/Application Support/Vivaldi/Default.
    (Backup before overwrite.)

    To be safe you can only copy these files.
    Bookmarks, Favicons, Notes, Shortcuts, Top Sites...

    But I did the worst thing you can imagine. I copied the whole 'Default' folder and first time Vivaldi Froze. had to force quit it. I open it again and now it's running smoothly with all the user data. This way you may loose some important data if something goes wrong. Do it at your own risk.

    Of-course this is not the syncing you asked for but it helped me to transfer my settings to other setup.

    Vivaldi Rocks!!



  • @jdavis1029
    How could this ever be a deal breaker? Why not just sync your login info with another tool than Chrome-Sync?
    You could for instance use LastPass (My personal favorite), it is free to use (except if you want to use it on mobile devices).
    For your bookmarks, there are also numerous extensions available, Xmarks for instance, is a cross-platform bookmarks sync by the same company as LastPass.
    Easy, now you how all your login info and bookmarks synced, not matter what browser you want to use.



  • @dinosw Ok.. so what is better? Have Vivaldi with one extension for bookmark sync, second extension with history sync and third (paid for those, who want to acces sync on mobile) password sync ? Or is it better to sync all on one place? I need passwords, bookmarks, history, auto form fill etc on my computer and on my phone.. all synced. So that's why I still use the crapChrome instead of Vivaldi.



  • What if you guys try a little bit different approach and don't care about own servers to do this. Nowadays users already have accounts on dropbox, icloud, google drive, one drive and so on always running on their devices... Maybe just create one file, secured with some good encryption method with a all the info about current Vivaldi user like bookmarks, passwords, plugins etc. But let a final user to pick location on his drive to store it and let different service do the sync? And every time when you install new Vivaldi on new device let user pick location of that file, ask him about password he entered when he created this file for the first time. Of course some mechanisms to reset this password have to be built in the Vivaldi, but i guess Vivaldi could send a mail to a user account with some verification code to open it?



  • @5ulo I agree, that it would be better to have it all in one place, I only oppose to the idea of not having that option, being a deal breaker =)



  • I have an idea: why not use link codes between devices / browsers? This way, the Vivaldi team avoids centralizing data and overloading its servers.


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