Plus, it still doesn't fix all reported annoyances with the new tab dragging behavior triggering Minimize Active Tab on drag:
[VB-77817] Tab dragging with "Minimize Active Tab" is terrible
Yes, it's still terrible with tabs in the second bar. The tab does get dragged, but the whole UI switches to the last used tab. Which means:
If the last active tab was a single tab, an unlocked second bar disappears completely, which prompts the tab in the second bar to no longer be dragged. This means the tab will appear un-draggable to the user.
If the last active tab was a stack, the second bar switches to a completely different set of tabs. This means the user will accidentally move their active tab into a completely different stack.
If I were to rephrase those older issues now, I would say it (sadly) still is as follows:
Issue aa (old)
0. Use two tab bars and have the second bar unlocked.
Use Tab A (unstacked).
Switch to Tab B in Stack 1.
Drag Tab B.
By dragging, you clicked on the Active Tab. Minimize Active Tab is triggered, switching you back to Tab A and making the second tab bar disappear.
But what happens to Tab B? Well, since you were dragging Tab B, an element which has since ceased to exist (because the second tab bar disappeared), your dragged tab ceases to exist, which makes Tab B appear undraggable.
Issue bb (old)
0. Use two tab bars.
Use Tab A in Stack 1.
Switch to Tab B in Stack 2.
2.5 Our goal here is to drag Tab B to another position in Stack 2.
Drag Tab B.
By dragging, you clicked on the Active Tab. Minimize Active Tab is triggered, switching you back to Tab A and switching the set of tabs on the second tab bar to tabs in Stack 1.
You, the user, are now dragging tab B through positions inside Stack 1 instead of dragging tab B through positions inside Stack 2, as the user intended.
If anyone is up for reproducing and acknowledging those older issues (introduced with the new tab dragging behavior) in hopes of a fix or want to let me know that they are not issues but intended behavior, contact me here.
Otherwise, consider this the last time I report those issues from scratch again. I may link to this post in the future, I will continue loving, using and supporting the browser, but I won't spend any extra hour describing issues that will never be acknowledged nor fixed nor marked as false positives on my radar, because all the effort invested proves to be utterly wasted. That being said, this is the exception and not the rule. I can only be glad most issues I personally reported got fixed sooner or later. Last I could do is make a feature request, but fixing those issues (by reverting to the old system where a drag isn't a click which would mean that Minimize Active Tab would not trigger on drag; if that is even possible) hardly counts as a feature.
@altcode Thanks. I left this thread open because there were still some discussions here about Command Chains that the Vivaldi team were actively engaged in. I think that those have now either come to an end or have resumed in threads discussing newer builds.
Closing this thread now that Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2352.3 has been released.
@goedl said in Panels, Tabs, Calendar and Mail improvements – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2339.3:
@code3 said in Panels, Tabs, Calendar and Mail improvements – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2339.3:
@goedl Thank you. The problem was fixed for me in latest snapshot.
Can you move a tab within a tab stack to the last position (=bottom).
Opening mail DB - This may take time if upgrades are due...
Waiting for 4 hours+ now. Is it possible that downgrading corrupts something the data base or do I just have to be more patient?
Utility Network Service is rather active, but I cannot identify whether this is what actually is used to sort mails.
It seems that downgrading M3 is just not possible.
@qu3x said in Windows uninstall fixed – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2312.13:
Just started up the latest SnapShot to realize that the additional search field has been dumped.
Show in Address Bar
I now need to additionally adjust the cursor position
Actually, you do not. Just click the magnifying glass and start typing. Focus is already in the Search field. The button save space, with one more click needed if you want to change the search engine.
I also prefer the line between the toolbar and the panel, but aesthetics is a personal thing. Ask in the Modding Vivaldi and maybe someone can tell you how to restore it.
@operafanboy said in Tweaks and improvements – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2305.3:
Also I almost always keep the tab-bar Minimized. Don't recall the status of it at that particular time I updated.
My mistake. Sorry I was thinking Panel bar.
Not sure why my settings were changed but being a wee bit OCD about such things, they were. WTF!
Pardon me but I take a lot of time going through the Settings as I use the Snapshot channel. Sometimes new settings are introduced and others become deprecated.
I did the same when I was an Opera user and do the same with FF which I also use periodically.
The browser is the most used programme on this computer. I prefer it to be consistent in its layout and appearance.
I mention chromecast as it was mentioned also. The update installed and when I relaunched Vivaldi my Search Field was missing and Setting > Search > SearchOptions: Search in Address Field was checked (something I never have enabled).
That is why I asked if the change could be made to save those settings when Updating the Snapshot.
I tried Vivaldi Stable stream (2259.33), but when I opened the page from the speed dial, the access error message appeared for a second (I could not read the message) and then went to the clicked page.
This error was not occured in the previous versions.