Slow on older computer
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Ayespy, My machine is only 7 years old!
dmidecode gave this info:
Memory Device
Total Width: 128 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 1024 MB
Speed: Unknown
Same specs for second 2048 MB device
Sorry, I don't know how else to find memory speed.hardinfo gave:
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Name : VIA Nano processor U2250 (1.6GHz Capable)
Family, model, stepping : 6, 15, 3 (Centaur i386 class)
Vendor : CentaurHauls
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Cache Size : 1024kb
Frequency : 1600.00MHz
BogoMIPS : 3193.73
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@wognath - Oh, geez. Really? What is the brand and model of that computer? It sounds like a web book.
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@wognath said in Slow on older computer:
Ayespy, My machine is only 7 years old!
dmidecode gave this info:If you're using a Debian based system, inxi is a handy little sysinfo script which gives a forum friendly output.
egCantankRus@Xenial:~$ inxi -b System: Host: Xenial Kernel: 4.4.0-57-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Unity 7.4.0 Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial Machine: Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-78LMT-USB3 v: x.x Bios: Award v: FA date: 04/23/2013 CPU: Quad core AMD FX-4300 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1400/3800 MHz Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF116 [GeForce GTX 550 Ti] Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution: [email protected] GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 550 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 367.57 Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169 Drives: HDD Total Size: 870.2GB (11.0% used) Info: Processes: 286 Uptime: 7 days Memory: 2090.4/3933.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
You may need to run as root to access some info.
eg for dmidecode memory info.CantankRus@Xenial:~$ sudo inxi -m Memory: Array-1 capacity: 16 GB devices: 4 EC: None Device-1: A0 size: No Module Installed type: N/A Device-2: A1 size: No Module Installed type: N/A Device-3: A2 size: No Module Installed type: N/A Device-4: A3 size: 4 GB speed: 1333 MHz type: N/A
For help
inxi -h
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Lenovo Ideapad S12 netbook (2009)
CantankRus, thanks for suggesting inxi. The [12,000 line] script just runs, no install needed.System: Host: fatdog64 Kernel: 4.4.35 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.5.2 Distro: Fatdog64 Linux 710 Linux 4.4.35 [ arch] Machine: System: LENOVO (portable) product: 20021 2959 v: Lenovo Ideapad S12 serial: 1S168002940000ZT Mobo: LENOVO model: MoutCook serial: EB14595608 Bios: LENOVO v: 20CN23WW date: 07/17/2009 CPU: Single core VIA Nano U2250 ( Capable) (-UP-) clocked at 1600 MHz Graphics: Card: VIA VX800/VX820 Chrome 9 HC3 Integrated Graphics Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: openchrome (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 Card-2: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: b43-pci-bridge Drives: HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (6.8% used) Info: Processes: 184 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 775.2/2757.1MB Client: Shell (sh) inxi: 2.1.28
vivaldi://gpu, 1st section
Graphics Feature Status
Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Flash: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Flash Stage3D: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Flash Stage3D Baseline profile: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Compositing: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Multiple Raster Threads: Disabled
Native GpuMemoryBuffers: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Rasterization: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Video Decode: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Video Encode: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
VPx Video Decode: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
WebGL: Hardware accelerated but at reduced performanceAs an experiment, under vivaldi://flags, I enabled #ignore-gpu-blacklist. Most items change to "Hardware accelerated". I'll test for a few days, but so far, it seems to make things worse
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Ouch. I'm afraid I can't do comparative tests to this level of hardware. My 13-year-old basic tower has four times the processing power (3.0 GHz and two cores) and twice the RAM (2 GB) that your netbook does. Over time, Vivaldi is sure to become leaner and more resource efficient, and a mobile version will come out. I don't know. Perhaps the mobile version could be tweaked to install on a linux netbook, since Android basically runs on a linux kernel, but I don't know. Making a decent chromium-based browser that will run fast and smooth on that hardware is a real challenge. I can only wish you luck, and suggest that you try things like turning off animations, emptying the Top Sites file and making it read-only, or other similar "slimming" strategies.
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You could also look at installing uBlock Origin extension which enables blocking of third party and unwanted web page content.
It allows you to block media elements over a defined size.
Using in advanced mode gives a lot of control. -
@Gwen-Dragon said in Slow on older computer:
On older netbooks Vivaldi is slower. May be a problem of faulty or missing GPU acceleration. I have it with my old Atom on MSI U220 netbook.
Almost all old netbooks with 32-bit Atom CPU - thanks to Microsoft's licencing strategy - only have 1 GB RAM. While most Linuxes will need around 350 MB RAM, Vivaldi at start up already needs more than that and after having opened and closed a few tabs soon exceeds 1 GB (currently with only this tab open it consumes 1,2 GB on my 64-bit-system).
@wognath
With 3 GB RAM it surely isn't the RAM but rather the VIA Nano, that's only a bit quicker than the Atom and just too slow for most modern browsers (Otter is noticeably quicker but not as complete as Vivaldi).
Sadly Vivaldi has no possibility to switch off autoload and autoplay of videos (unless you count the available extensions which don't work reliably).
As to startup: I noticed that Vivaldi starts much quicker on my system with --disable-gpu option. -
Thanks for all the suggestions. Nothing tried so far makes much difference, as expected, but I have learned things.
I have uBlock origin installed (oops--I should have mentioned my extensions in original post: uBlock, https everywhere and Ghostery). I'll try setting the option to block large media. That should solve the problem of unwanted videos.
I wasn't aware of Otter, so I'll have a look. I used Opera 12 to the bitter end, so "recreate the best aspects of Opera 12.x" sounds interesting. Most likely I'll stick with Vivaldi though. Having a little patience is a good thing, they say
I found this site to download 1.## vivaldis:
http://www.astonsoftware.ro/file/page/199/Vivaldi
Is there an official repo for old Vivaldi releases? repo.vivaldi.com appears to have only 1.6 snapshots and 1.5 releases. I would like to retry some of the 0.# and 1.# which might be lighter. -
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@wognath said in Slow on older computer:
I would like to retry some of the 0.# and 1.# which might be lighter.
That's probably a bad idea. Those older versions are based on older Chromium versions with known security issues.
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We do in fact have a public repo https://vivaldi.com/download/archive/win/ but as it says in the description @ the page : We highly recommend using the latest Version of Vivaldi to benefit from latest security updates, bug fixes and new features. Use at your own risk. Edit: Deleted the previous comment to highlight the security risk more.
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Thanks for the links to the repo.
Use at your own risk.
Understood; I'll stick with the latest. The old one (1.0.435.38) is faster, though.
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dLeon, thank you for the detailed suggestions and explanations. Although I was unaware of the explanations, I had already done many of them. Regarding extensions, Adblock caused intolerable delay on startup; uBlock origin is much better. You said
I'm afraid if say just 2/3 feature requests in this forum alone being implement, we will shoot our self on the foot. The older versions got lesser features obviously.
On the other hand, Ayespy predicts
Over time, Vivaldi is sure to become leaner and more resource efficient, and a mobile version will come out... Perhaps the mobile version could be tweaked to install on a linux netbook
Leaner would surprise me, but I hope he's right. Puppylinux forum member nic007 has run Opera Mobile on Linux, but it requires JRE
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