Multi-Account Containers
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@venix said in Multi-Account Containers:
Multi-Account Containers
Thanks for the answer!
Your advice is suitable for those who have 2-3 accounts. But if there are 10-20 of them. It doesn't fit at all. It's a shame that Vivaldi doesn't have this feature. However, we can see that someone created an extension that satisfied the user's request. So it is possible.
I hope that the developers will hear us and Multi-Account Containers will appear -
Please add this feature! There is no Chrome extension that is good enough for this (it doesn't work with Google accounts, for example). I love Firefox just because of these containers, but it keeps crashing on my machine, so I need another browser. Vivaldi is almost perfect. But it has the profile system like Chrome and that is just cumbersome.
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There is a paid app that does a great job at this called Shift (tryshift.com) but it doesn't support add-ons and costs $100/year.
If there would be a way to allow account containers for Vivaldi, I could switch over completely. I would easily pay for a browser that could do everything for me. (multiple account containers/identities and add-ons)
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I've been using Wavebox (wavebox.io) as my main browser for a while. Also chromium-based and supports per-tab cookie containers (though not as nice as Firefox's implementation). It's a paid app though (also $100/year).
Someone else mentioned Ghost Browser (ghostbrowser.com) which is free for up to four "identities" (cookie containers) or $250/year for unlimited.
Both of these options are Chromium and implement the cookie container functionality in different ways, so it should definitely be at least possible to implement in Vivaldi, but also both are proprietary paid products, so it's not like you can just go to GitHub and figure out how they did it, either.
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This week I fired up an old box and used Firefox to browse the web generally to research a product I might shop for, and also to check Facebook . The next day, the ads on Facebook indicated that they'd been following me around. It was a surprise, because I never encounter the creepy ads when using Vivaldi on my daily laptop. Why not? Apparently it's some combination of my Vivaldi privacy settings and the use of the uBlock Origin extension. Containers seem to be unnecessary.
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@kevan were you using ublock origin in firefox also?
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@priest72 No, nor containers. I've been running it au naturel to see what they mean when they claim that it blocks third party cookies and social tracking. Well, whatever it means, it still lets FB follow me around and watch what I do
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@kevan Tracking protection in firefox needs to be configured via the settings..I use the strict configuration.
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The fact that this thread has been open for YEARS is disappointing.
I'm sure that statement might give off some strong "entitled millennial" vibes, but come on devs... This thread has been open since 2018. Throw us a bone and provide some kind of official statement here.
Yes, I think Vivaldi's audience appreciates all of the awesome, feature rich, out of the box ideas that Vivaldi has been implementing within that time-span... but containers are a vital feature and testament to the browser's practical functionality. It is the missing substance that would pair well with Vivaldi's style.
We don't need to juggle browsers all day... and for many of us, it's the only reason we don't use Vivaldi for work.
Again, I love the stuff that Vivaldi has kicked out, but containers are the big boy toys that are needed in today's environment more than ever.. Especially for those of us who want to use it for work.
- Can we get an official response and stance from Vivaldi?
- Is this on the development road map?
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@number28 With 4,500 feature requests, and a small team, those needed by few users or difficult to implement may have to wait for a long time. Wherever you see that a feature is tagged as In Progress, it may get done this year rather than next.
This is one of the top requests, but votes are not the main factor in deciding what gets fixed first.
Decision-making Process
Please watch JĆ³nās Response to my Question on this topic. -
@kevan said in Multi-Account Containers:
Containers seem to be unnecessary.
How can I be logged in to two different twitter (or any arbitrary website) accounts on different tabs at the same time? Does vivaldi have a feature for this? If so then maybe containers are unnecessary, otherwise they are.
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@browseruser What you can do is open a new private window to log in with a different account.
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I don't seem to understand what is the problem, it's not possible for you to use different user profiles? Each user profile will have different history, saved passwords and cookies so you can have one window to open a site with one user/pass, another window opening the same site with another user/pass.
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@ian-coog Can you do this with tabs? I don't want multiple windows open
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@browseruser I fear it's not possible to have multiple profiles on the same window. But really, if you have to do 2 different things with 2 different users, better you try it and live with it, you can't have everything in life.
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Looking at replies talking about window based profiles must have a different workflow, have not been exposed to tabbed based containers for very long, or don't use the web much in a way that requires many accounts.
If you are managing multiple projects across different institutions in something like Trello, tabbed containers are much cleaner than having 3,4, or 5 windows open. Forcing specific sites to different tab containers is also useful for a cleaner experience. My setup has 3 monitors and it is easier to manage everything in tabs vs browser windows. I get my use case is likely in the minority but still hoping to see this feature for vivaldi one day.
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While I'd love to have this, to me it seems Multi-Account Containers may be a huge feature to implement in Vivaldi by Vivaldi developers alone and may need Google to set the foundations for it in the Chromium source code. Right now it's a killer feature of Firefox, and rightly so. I use Firefox for the accounts I wish to use with MAC and Vivaldi for everything else.
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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sessionbox-multi-login-to/megbklhjamjbcafknkgmokldgolkdfig
SessionBox addon does that. -
@pesala
Hi Pesala, I don't think that is what he had in mind about 2 twitter accounts in seperate tabs.I think there is a misunderstanding about what, it is, the containers do, that people like so much.
People want to browse normally in different accounts in different tabs in the same window.
Something like what this browser does and advertises..
https://ghostbrowser.com- I have two Notion accounts I want them side by side in same window, using the power of Vivaldi to tile or stack. I can drag and drop between or from the side panel.
- Likewise with 2 or 3 email accounts. ( work, personal and family)
- Or webapps ( think Trello, Asana, Clickup, Slack....)
- Social media managers could stay logged into all the accounts they are managing that day.
- In Infinity ( trello clone) I have a personal and a work account and with Vivaldi I have to use a separate vivaldi install to access both.
If I use the private tab I lose all my extensions, my whole setup and all the functionality of Vivaldi I mention above to mix and match tabs, using extensions and tiling, stacking.... etc....
Likewise, different profiles take time to set up and are not flexible. Profiles are really for different users that need a different setup (look or feel)
If I get a new client today to manage their accounts, I don't want to set up a profile that I might never use again once complete. I just want to login and get down to work using my profile that I have spent time setting up for my needs.For ease of work, I don't want the disconnect that happens to my workflow and productivity from switching profiles, browsers, or to private windows with different setups bookmarks, etc. The beauty of Vivaldi is I can set it up best for my productivity needs and I waste time if I leave that optimum environment.
Private Tabs are for privacy and have a different place But this is not what people are seeking.
You might as well just use a separate browser, because it's NOT the Privacy people are looking for!
(apart from keeping accounts private and unseen from each other. under the hood, like ghost browsers cookie jars concept.).It's the Multi-Tasking with Multiple apps and Multiple logins using the FULL power of Vivaldi, that people are looking for.
Functionality that will drastically speed up people's workflow, whose desktop is the web browser.
Functionality that Vivaldi desperately needs and why this is the most voted for request, In my opinion.
I could never leave Vivaldi for Ghost browser or firefox as I would leave too many great features.
But this is a feature we really need in today's internet and I hope Vivaldi adds it because Vivaldi is the best. -
@dmg browseruser asked what he can do. Must he wait for this feature request to be implemented before he can open two Twitter accounts at once? Right above his post I explained why we might have to wait some time for this to be implemented.
This is one of the feature requests from the beginning of this new feature request forum, and is second in the list of the most popular feature requests.
Currently, it is tagged as Nice to Have, so the developers are not currently working on it, nor is it in the Pipeline of things to do.
Workarounds are all that we can offer at the moment for those who cannot wait months or years to do what they want.