Vivaldi needs a change with its interface
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When I first came to know about Vivaldi, I was amazed. The browser had so many great features, all packed together. Though there has been one thing missing. It's interface is Classical and not that neat. Yes, as a previous opera user, I really like great design and would love if the same was with Vivaldi, such as hover effects are nearly visible but not in settings or other area. If Vivaldi could have workspaces, like in Opera, it could be great. If we could choose the style of the icons in the speed dial, like square or circle, I would call it real customization. When we have stack tabs, and are active on another tab, it will have a square outline which is annoying. And most annoying, the Vivaldi menu should be changed to separate topics only rather than adding them in sub-folders. The browser is super beast but it is too classic.
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@waleedskhan2007 , classical interface? take a look in this thread
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/20106/post-your-color-scheme-at-vivaldi
It is precisely the possibilities of the UI that Vivaldi highlights from all other browsers. Classical only the default UI which nobody use in Vivaldi.
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@Catweazle Yes, I have seen it. The thing is that they all have used their custom CSS codes. That is just not possible by me and anyone else who don't know the coding language. That's the thing. You can also compare the Vivaldi menu with the Opera menu.
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@waleedskhan2007 , at least, I don't use any custom CSS, all my UI are only with the settings, nothing more. The use of CSS is optional for modding some secundary aspects, like Quick acces icons, icons color and style, special funktions.... thing of this type.
As I said, there is currently no browser on the market as configurable and customizable as Vivaldi, not for nothing the UI is patented by Vivaldi (the part which is not OpenSource) -
I also find the modding cool but there is indeed an entry barrier, even if you know where to find the mods, and how they might look like. Not too convenient right now.
They are currently adding nice new things like transparency for the panel and tab bar, which in my opinion did quite a good leap towards a more sleek feel. Just using the options in the settings menu get you this far already.
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Mine currently, no CSS modding
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@waleedskhan2007 Sorry - is this what you are referring to as a "classic" interface?
No codes here...
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@Catweazle As I said, we can do great things but most other great features, like thumbnail transparency and drop shadow require CSS knowledge.
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@Ayespy Not really, my main point out was on built-in features such as the Vivaldi menu and the sidebar.
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@waleedskhan2007 , not really need knowledge of CSS, only need to search the correspondien script in the Thread "Modding Vivaldi" and add it.
For what you need I think there are such scripts. -
@waleedskhan2007 my screenshot was done entirely through using the options given by Vivaldi's settings dialogs (in the current snapshot, which I presume will get rolled into the stable channel soon)
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@WildEnte said in Vivaldi needs a change with its interface:
which I presume will get rolled into the stable channel soon
That's how it works...
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@Catweazle I agree with @waleedskhan2007 that while this is not too difficult when you know what you need to do, first you need to know this option exsists and then you need to figure out how to do it, and it all has the typical "monkey see monkey do" aspect.
I believe it would be really great if Vivaldi had something like the chrome extension store for UI mods, with previews and no need to restart and reviews and somesuch.
Whatever lowers the entry barrier for the less tech savvy folks like myself, who by the way if they are using Vivaldi still are rather tech savvy compared to your average Joe.
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@Ayespy I know, the word 'presume' is to be mentally applied to the word 'soon', not to the words 'will get rolled into the stable channel'
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@WildEnte , simply insert the file with the estension . css. desired and restart Vivaldi.
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@Catweazle that is exactly my point. It is easy when you know what you do, and I have done this. But imagine you are totally new to Vivaldi and don't know what css means. We start off at the point where average Joe has defined the directory for css mods in that setting you mentioned. It says "you can put your custom css UI modifications in that directory".
- So you search for "Vivaldi custom css UI modifications" on the web and find a) nothing from vivaldi.com, b) references to having to turn on vivaldi://experiments which reads like a hack, and c) otherwise links to code pieces on GitHub which average Joe will not click.
- If you scroll down a bit you might find the link to an official Vivaldi blog post which says nothing about css mods, and if you are clever enough to click on the link of the "some people go nuts with Vivaldi" picture on the current feature page https://vivaldi.com you MAY finally find the appropriate forum post https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/20106/post-your-color-scheme-at-vivaldi which is a great show me yours I'll show you mine collection, but you don't actually get the css files there.
- Your web search may also lead you to find this forum post to Vivaldi's UI Customization, which to average Joe is lots of mumbo jumbo and doesn't get you anywhere.
- Not sure what luck gets you there, but you may find the link to the Modding Guide on this forum that @Pesala keeps posting for new users like in this thread, which then turns out ALSO not to point you in a direction of what CSS files exist and what they might do to your browser
- So you might just start clicking on links that bring you to one or the other Github page, and if you are lucky you may find a theming mod that you like
There is no library. Average Joe has no chance modding the browser. The entry barrier is too high.
It's all monkey see monkey do, and what we need to make it accessible is a library of some sorts kind of like the extension web store or something of that nature.Please don't read this as a rant. The modding capabilities are great, but it is sooooo inaccessible. You folks just don't get how advanced and skilled you are at these things.
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@WildEnte , that's why we've said that CSS modifications are optional and for a particular use or function. Also that Vivaldi, without using CSS, offers in its configuration many more customization possibilities than any other browser on the market. He can first explore the possibilities that are in the configuration (it was enough for me since I use Vivaldi), before experimenting with CSS for which he also find a lot of scripts and examples in this forum in several threads, also how to use them.
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@WildEnte It was always thus. Modding Opera with skins, bookmarklets, and javascript was never something for the average Joe or Jill. Do you remember Tamil and his tutorials on skinning Opera?
Here dwell dragons. Experimental features can stop working at any time, and mods can break on updates. It is not something that we should expect everyone to do.
In due course, some of the best mods will make it into the official GUI somewhere in settings.
Help documentation is always behind the development curve.
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@WildEnte said in Vivaldi needs a change with its interface:
You folks just don't get how advanced and skilled you are at these things.
It's the same as saying programming is too inaccessible and only few people are able to do it. And I have to agree, if everyone was able to code on his own, I wouldn't have a job, and I'm glad it's like that