How do I use PWA/Web Apps in Vivaldi?
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I updated the feature request (here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/44340/please-pwa-installation-for-all-websites/3) as I just discovered that you can drag-and-drop any bookmark onto the vivaldi://apps page, to "install" it as a PWA, regardless of whether the site has an "official" PWA or not - would be nice if the current context-menu option were extended to do the code-wise equivalent of this...
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@Darthagnon
Thank you! I've been wanting to 'install' outlook.com since november but vivaldi has never for Outlook.
Curiously I can't actually drop a bookmark in to vivaldi://apps, it didn't allow that, could drag and drop the URL though. -
@Leonick If you'd like it to be easier to install websites, I put a feature request in: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/44340/please-pwa-installation-for-all-websites
If enough people upvote it, maybe the Vivaldi team will consider it (?)
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I've found it really hard to figure out how to install a PWA, and I'm still not done.
The hoops I've had to jump through:
- Search online for PWA in Vivaldi, find this article with outdated information (expect Install button in the Vivaldi menu), spend a long time trying to figure out why the Install button doesn't appear.
- Eventually find this thread, and by golly, that is one well-hidden Install button. This feature is not discoverable in the slightest - which is exactly the opposite of how PWAs are supposed to be. So I "installed" it, but it doesn't appear anywhere except...
- Have to manually type in the address vivaldi://apps (i.e. even less discoverable)
- Right-click -> Create shortcuts... -> select only Start Menu -> OK
- For some reason, shortcut was created under Chome Apps folder instead of a Vivaldi apps folder. Compare with Brave, which creates a Brave Apps folder.
- Finally I've got a shortcut where I want it, but it still has the following issues (not present in either Brave or Chrome PWAs):
a. Address bar is visible and, best I can tell, cannot be hidden
b. The taskbar icon is Vivaldi rather than the app's favicon
Is ther a way to fix these two issues?
Bottom line - Vivaldi's support for PWAs on desktop is entirely not satisfactory. Even if there are ways to fix those two final issues (which I'll be happy if there are), the process of getting there is way too hard. PWAs by definition are supposed to be discoverable and seamless.
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Even this method does not seem to work any more (or for me): if I drag an icon from the bookmark panel on the left to the vivaldi://apps tab nothing seems to happen. Should one drag from somewhere else?
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@paulatz you have to drag it from the bookmark bar or you can simply select the url of the website and drag it to the vivaldi://apps page
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@arkas111 thank you: from the bookmark tab it does work. The behaviour is different, and not as good, as creating a real PWA for websites that support it. The icon is really just the low res favicon, and the window class is not changed, which means that the browser window appears as a normal vivaldi window to the operating system
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@paulatz yes.. that is the problem in vivaldi in case of webpages that doesn't support PWA. But the ones which supports PWA works fine. like youtube music webapp works fine, but the whatsapp doesn't
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@arkas111 said in How do I use PWA/Web Apps in Vivaldi?:
@paulatz yes.. that is the problem in vivaldi in case of webpages that doesn't support PWA. But the ones which supports PWA works fine. like youtube music webapp works fine, but the whatsapp doesn't
For me it only works fine the first time after creating the PWA and Vivaldi launches it on it's own. When I start it later again the window looks like a mix of the regular window and a PWA window.
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Same here. It used to have the ability to install from the menu but it doesn't matter what website that I know is a PWA, it doesn't appear. And dragging it to the apps folder leaves me with the same issue.
I really like Vivaldi, I use with in tandem with Firefox (since they won't support PWAs on desktop) and I would really like to get away from using Edge and Chrome for this purpose.
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The thing is: With a browser like Microsoft Edge, I can basically install any website as an App, but with Vivaldi, that only works with a handful of sites. Installing Outlook and Todoist as an App works fine, Evernote doesn't (but works with Edge).
Hopefully the Vivaldi devs will improve that in the future and without having to enable flags.
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OK, sorry but I'm lost. I only installed Vivaldi yesterday so on a steep learning curve anyway.
I'm on a Huawei phone - no Google, so I want to add Google Calendar as a web app & also one other site. On the latter I found the install button but it's not showing up on a page I can see? And where is the Experiments setting?
Does anybody have a simple guide I can work through please.
Please bear in mind I'me a tech newbie, I'm 70 and I need help - but keep it simple please
I got rid of Chrome because of privacy issues, Firefox was good but I read Vivaldi was better.... -
Right click doesn't work on any PWA I install, is this issue for everyone?
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@Stewarta13wsb
Hi, please create a new thread in the support section, this thread is about PWA applications.
Vivaldi for Android does not have a calendar client, only desktop version and it is a technical preview.
You can use Vivaldi Web Calendar from any device using your user account on vivaldi.net.Cheers, mib
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PWA's don't work the way they should. On first launch, they launch like a PWA but subsequent launches open the website as a normal tab in a new window. It only launches like a PWA again if I open the website in a normal tab and click the Open in [PWA Name] option from the tab context menu. Please add an easily accessible PWA feature.
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@sbstratos79 said in How do I use PWA/Web Apps in Vivaldi?:
PWA's don't work the way they should. On first launch, they launch like a PWA but subsequent launches open the website as a normal tab in a new window. It only launches like a PWA again if I open the website in a normal tab and click the Open in [PWA Name] option from the tab context menu. Please add an easily accessible PWA feature.
I normally hide the tabs. But if I want to use PWAs, I have to open PWAs first, and then I need to show the tabs and click the Open in [PWA Name] option, and hide tabs in the last. The process is painful actually.
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@littlepoint Yeah.. I find PWA's useful because I don't have to open the web browser every time I want to, for example, check my telegram messages. The way Vivaldi's PWA's currently work completely eliminates that advantage. It's quite frustrating.
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