GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71
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@GT500 No, works.
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@rseiler said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
@mossman: Phone number? SMS hasn't been the recommended 2FA method for years. Apps like Authy are. And it's not like you need to use it every time, either, since you can request that Google remember a given device for 30 days or whatever the time period is in their case.
Whatever it is, it's still giving Google another crumb of highly personal information about yourself. I'm not being paranoid if I prefer not to do that.
Edit: been thinking about this a bit more. The point is that two-factor authentication is more secure for Google, not the user. I understand when my company wants this for VPN, I appreciate it when online banking... In those case they need proof that I am who I say I am. And I also have no problem letting them have a file on me which allows them to verify that.
For webmail?!? That's a whole different thing. It is absolutely no advantage to me, the user, that Google or some third party keeps additional records on me with all the privacy and security risks that entails. If I'm keeping my passwords nice and secure then this is only increasing my risk for their convenience.
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@mossman Huh... waddayaknow. Tried again today with normal user/pass and this time IMAP in GMail works.
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if I close a second window (with 5 tabs) and then another tab from my first window, and want to reopen the second window via trashbin, then the last tab from window is opened and not the window
is this a known bug?
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@derDay Yes, but I don't have a bug number.
If you keep reopening the Window until all closed tabs have been reopened, then the Window with n tabs will reopen.
It is like Close Tab or Window are added to the undo list in order.
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@Pesala
great, thank you(and yes, I could reopen 20 tabs until I get my second window, but... no)
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Unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to have much luck convincing my admin at work to enable access to "less secure apps."
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I installed the stable version 3.5.2115.73 in update mode -about this last snapshop- and it inherited all the problems I've said in my post above. I uninstalled it, erased all traces of Vivaldi, reinstalled it, and now everything is working fine.
This is a warning to anyone who has problems with the new version. Some of this line of development remains in the installation and prejudices subsequent updates. It is advisable to uninstall and start from zero.
Good day!!!!
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This is the release candidate? For me, opening/switching/closing tabs is still painfully accompanied by several seconds of delay. Admittedly, I have a lot of tabs open, like 300+, BUT this caused no lag in earlier versions. I was really hoping for the next RC/stable version to solve this
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@Turandot maybe you're running out of ram with that many tabs.
try saving your tabs as a session, close all tabs, close and reopen Vivaldi, and then see if it gets responsive again.
You can always reopen the saved session and get your tabs back.
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@Turandot fellow tab hoarder
With just little under 600 tabs, nearly all of them hibernated, new tab opens in 3 seconds for me.
Closing a tab happens in about a second.
I haven't noticed any speed changes in recent builds.I'm also on a snapshot. Stable version is no different I believe. Some snapshots are chosen to be called a "stable", that's about it for the difference.
I've noticed that the effect is not shared between windows, so I use a separate profile / private window / different browser when I'm in a hurry.
@iAN-CooG you don't suggest to use manual tab management to tab hoarders
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Thanks for your answer. However, I was afraid that someone would jump at the fact that I have so many tabs open.
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So I repeat that this was not a problem in earlier versions.
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When I start Vivaldi, only one single tab is active. A look into the task manager of Vivaldi confirms this. Only this single tab occupies RAM. The others are hibernated. Assuming that the task manager shows the truth, I am extremely far away from having no RAM left. Vivaldi is even the only application that is running on my windows machine. So this should not be a problem. Or do I not understand some technical process here?
Nevertheless there is the delay. Vivaldi is frozen for seconds during tab switching and does not react. After a few seconds the new tab is graphically built up, but then it takes another estimated 3 seconds until I can interact with the tab. Others have reported similar things in previous snapshots of the current development line.
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@Killy-MXI said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
@iAN-CooG you don't suggest to use manual tab management to tab hoarders
Then keep your unresponsive Vivaldi but don't blame Vivaldi for your bad habits leading to bad performance.
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@Turandot
I can confirm RAM is unlikely an issue. Hibernated tabs handled pretty efficiently in terms of RAM.
My best guess so far is that the general slowdown is related to the fact a lot of tabs have to be enumerated, updated in the tab bar / window panel etc.
I'm pretty tolerant to this, although some additional negative effects may happen sometimes that I have no explanation for.It may or may not be solvable. I don't know whether Vivaldi devs use certain usage scenarios in their tests to identify performance bottlenecks.
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@iAN-CooG
I can only repeat what've been told in some way in https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24476/sessions-panel or https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/32151/tab-groups already:
I don't need this many tabs.
It's just that managing browsing context requires too much effort with existing tools.
I need better tools to reduce this effort.
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@guigirl: In my view no need to be sarcastic.
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Relatable:
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LinearGrouchyClownanemonefish-mobile.mp4
(astronaut and a pen)What I expect:
- Things being where I left them.
Sessions, bookmarks, etc:
- Manually attach a wire or appropriate length to the ceiling in the place I want any object to stay...