3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome
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@ifacedown: I believe you will be pleasantly surprised!
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@steffie: Thank you! I'm certainly enjoying it
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@ifacedown said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
This is interesting. Over the years, I have used these browsers as my main ones, Chrome then switched to Maxthon, then switched to Firefox. I'm liking the Android Version of Vivaldi, reading this article would force me to try Vivaldi on Desktop!
The Android Vivaldi is OK, so if you like that you'll love the desktop Vivaldi, it quite simply blows it out of the water.
My browser history starts a little earlier: NCSA Mosaic (usually the SPRY or Spyglass rebrands)! I also briefly tried "The Internet" (i.e. Internet Explorer 3), before switching to the likes of Netscape/Opera. Ever since Mozilla released "Phoenix" (later Firefox), I've generally used that as my main with pre-evil Opera (later Vivaldi), as my second browser. I also used to like Konqueror back in the KDE3 days, and I think Otter is a brilliant (but under-resourced) project worth a look too.
I remember being completely mind-blown when I discovered Opera, because it had a multiple-document interface (windows within the main program window), the precursor to the tabs we all take for granted today. I also lived through the "this site only works in Internet Explorer" era - only to see it effectively happening again with Googevil Chrome.
I stopped taking Opera seriously when they ditched Presto and became a crippled version of Chrome. I dropped Opera completely like a sack of poo, the moment they turned evil. I occasionally try Chromium, but have never liked it.
IMHO Vivaldi is possibly the nicest browser I've ever used. The only way to improve on it would be to change the rendering engine to Gecko/Quantum or resurrect Presto / Konqueror's KHTML engine, and release it under a free software licence such as the GPL... neither of which will probably ever happen (and from the developers' explanations on this blog, it's completely understandable).
Gosh, it feels old to think that I was using bulletin-boards and e-mail, and possibly even browsing the web, before the OP was even born. That said, we were a techy family so I got started pretty early by the standards of the day...
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@stardust: I think that chrome tab stacking is not accessible and easy. You have to click, to show the tabs, too many clicks required and not easy to glance the number of tabs and tabs. Tab stacking is supposed to be a temporary way of organisation, sessions can provide named tabs.
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@biruktes said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
@stardust: I think that chrome tab stacking is not accessible and easy. You have to click, to show the tabs, too many clicks required and not easy to glance the number of tabs and tabs. Tab stacking is supposed to be a temporary way of organisation, sessions can provide named tabs.
^^This.
I never worked out how to do it in Chromium, because I just haven't ever used it more than fleetingly, but it's so easy in Vivaldi that I have once or twice done it by accident, and (for a split-second) wondered what the hell happened! Of course, being a quick and intuitive feature you're not lost even if it does happen. -
@biruktes I have just installed chrome to test it, you can't even create a stack by D&D so not very usable (maybe its an experimental feature, I don't know). At least you can expand and collapse the stack...
Well, last time I used this feature - in Opera 12
Here is my favorite gif:^___^
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@jamesbeardmore said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
"The Internet"
Oh, that's the box that Roy and Moss loaned to Jen for the weekend.
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Chrome has the largest market share so guess who web masters target primarily..?.yes chrome.
Chrome may have specific components which these sites seek which vivaldi may have not.
Vivaldi may have the same user agent string but may have differing or absent functionality.not a fault of the browser just lazy coding on behalf of the web designers.
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@dshintag said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
still have all kinds of little compatibility issues with websites
Huh? Not for me. It's been many years afaik since i last had anything like this with V Snapshot or Stable. I definitely notice that some websites sometimes render slightly differently to Firefox, but never in any problematic way for me.
I must be very lucky, or you must be very unlucky.
Spoiler
Damn i wonder why KDE Emoji Selector keeps adding that redundant symbol ?
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@dshintag said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
Magic Radio
If you mean https://planetradio.co.uk/magic/player/
That works for me on Snapshot and Stable!confirmation that this is a real bug from the V team
Weird!!
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@dshintag As I said - weird
As you've reported it, hope the devs can sort it out for you!?
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@dshintag said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
I do wonder, though, why does Vivaldi - despite being built atop Chromium and using an unchanged user agent - still have all kinds of little compatibility issues with websites, where Chrome has none? Your UI is one of your biggest assets, miles ahead of Chrome, but I keep reporting bugs and incompatibilities, and this is becoming a bit exhausting...
Just like @Steffie I have no compatibility issues with websites whatsoever. In fact, Vivaldi is the browser I go to, when I simply have to view a broken and badly-coded web site.
The issue, 99% of the time, will not be with Vivaldi itself, because it uses Chromium's rendering engine as you rightly point-out. It will be lazy web-developers who do browser-sniffing, and refuse to show you a site if the browser's identification string doesn't match the latest version of Google Chrome exactly.
In old pre-evil Opera, you could get around this very easily with its "identify as" setting, which gave you the option of Internet Explorer, Netscape/Mozilla, or Opera. In Vivaldi there are user-agent switching extensions you can use, but you have to be careful to pick a regularly-updated one, or one that allows you to enter a custom string, so you don't accidentally identify as, for instance, Chrome 7 on Windows Vista.
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@jamesbeardmore said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
...It will be lazy web-developers who do browser-sniffing, and refuse to show you a site if the browser's identification string doesn't match the latest version of Google Chrome exactly.
I forgot to add, they could even be sending a bad version of the web site to "encourage" you to "upgrade" to their preferred browser, like MSN and Hotmail occasionally did with pre-evil Opera, or alternatively they could have separate stylesheets for all the major browsers, and take a guess with any browser that doesn't match. A site may therefore accidentally (and incorrectly) send Vivaldi the stylesheet for Mozilla or IE when it should send the Chrome one, because the developer isn't aware of Vivaldi but has decided to incorporate browser-specific code.
All I know is, whenever a site thinks that Vivaldi is just Chrome, it "just works" (TM).
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The boy is young and his amazement at Vivaldi's potential is understandable. The sad thing is that all this created decades ago with Opera, the real one, and was abandoned for Chrome, because they didn't understand its potential.
A little bit more speed and full Facebook compatibility were enough to get most people to adopt Chrome, a very sad period in the story.
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@dshintag Some (privacy) extensions mess with UA and some nasty sites could say "unsupported browser" via a pre-set cookie or other things. But in 99,9% cases, the chrome default string should prevent this.
@Folgore101 Well, the NewOpera only need a platform in which spread their services. And with Blink they can spend more resources on that. Sadly. Old users never been part of the project, it seems.
@jamesbeardmore Gecko was harder to mantain and suffered of performance issues when Vivaldi launched. The other reason why blink was chosen is the BSD is more permissive and have more people working on it.
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@Hadden89 said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
Old users never been part of the project, it seems
So true! We were all very slow to realise this, in the O15+ forum, as update after update rolled out yet never redressing our complaints & entreaties. Some of the online staff's posts' misdirections & obfuscations to us were astounding.
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@Steffie said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
in the O15+ forum, as update after update rolled out yet never redressing our complaints & entreaties
Do you remember they were saying that users don't need bookmarks...
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@Stardust Of course, they also said that too many functions confused users, which is why most of the old users abandoned them.
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But can you make Vivaldi not run 7x TIMES SLOWER than Chrome?