Is Vivaldi Ready to be our Default Browser?
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PS - I "Love" thanking you guys with the "<3 Thank You" button….but maybe that heart (<3) needs to go....LOL
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Not ready for prime time over here. Once it offers
- full extension support (visuals etc.)
- smooth-scrolling
it is.
someone
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Not ready for prime time over here. Once it offers
- full extension support (visuals etc.)
- smooth-scrolling
it is.
someone
Extension support will arrive soon enough.
Smooth scrolling, simple as it may sound, may take a bit longer. The native implementation of "smooth scrolling" in Blink really kind of sucks - and to write several thousand lines of code to replace and improve upon it within the actual browser itself, is a ton of work for little return. In the meantime, there are loads of Chrome extensions that purport to provide "smooth scrolling," and you may want to try one of those. There is also, out there in the web-verse, an extension called "modern scroll" which I've actually heard a couple of good things about.
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Vivaldi has been my default browser for quite some time. However, I keep the others for escape purposes. Filling in forms on web pages can be a tedious task using Vivaldi. I regret using Vivaldi when applying for ESTA for my whole family.
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Vivaldi is doing double duty with Opera 12 and occasional Firefox and IE at the moment for me, because it is not yet ready to be my only browser. For instance, per-site control of javascript, plugins, etc, has just been lost in the last two updates and need putting back. There is no tab tearing yet. The search box is unfinished (to whit: clicking in it does not select all text, there are no previous searches stored, or search suggestions. Right click menu search is still stuck on Google (needs to be the currently selected engine in the search box). Video does not seem to work on many sites. Extensions are not yet fully supported. Plus tabs are still kind of clunky (dragging is very crude looking at the moment). There is no way to save, load and manage sessions.
And many other bits and pieces. I look forward to the first official release, but we've a way to go yet.
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Vivaldi is not yet my current browser, At the moment i just read these forums and check out the snapshots. Opera 12.17 remains my default browser, primarily for the mail feature. I really don't have much interest in mouse gestures and so on. I;m just waiting for mail, extensions button, and incognito mode. As soon as e-mail arrives Vivaldi will be my default browser, The devs are doing a great job so far, so i'll just wait patiently.
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No. It's still a buggy glitchfest with promise, but not a complete delivery yet. For the moment, I'm using Vivaldi when I can (currently unable to), and defaulting back to Chrome or Dragon when I have to. I'm hoping that in the near future, I won't have to, but until then, I do what must be done.
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I'm been testing 1.0.212.3 (Developer Build) (64-bit windows 7) and it's in pretty decent shape. Lots of features already. I could use it most of the time without problems, but not enough yet to make me use it instead of Chrome.
Facebook videos (youtube fine) don't seem to play at all for me. But, I haven't investigated what vivaldi://flags changes I made cause it. With the default settings the videos play but there's no picture (just sound). Not sure if that's some h.264/mp4 issue or not. Works fine in Chrome though. Kind of seems like the video is being rendering in some hidden window.
In the link context menu, I'm missing "open in background tab".
The mailto protocol doesn't seem to be supported yet.. Really want that and feeds to pass to Thunderbird.
What I'm really missing though (that I don't have in Chrome either) is left-click on tab to focus previously-focused tab. I miss that so much after ditching Opera 12.
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I was really hoping that this would be a respectable replacement for Opera 12.xxx which I still use, however, I have
experienced Freezing and lockups, which seem to be a problem with Chrome, which could be due to the way that they treat tabs, (as individuals) , so if one fails, the Browser doesn't close; Seems like you may not have a problem, if you have 8Gig of RAM, if not, sorry…...
(Have just read that 32 bit version may not have the problems, which I am experiencing with 64 bit)
There is a vast amount of correspondence on the web, w.r.t. these problems; Apparently Firefox had similar issues, and
managed to resolve them.
With Opera, there was the facility to set the Cache level (typically 5MB), no such facility with Vivaldi.
There are some links on the Blog. that I have posted, but don't expect any response as people seem to be more interested in the 'Toys', rather than the fundamental functioning of the system. -
It's true 32-bit is more stable and requires less RAM than 64-bit at this time.
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I've found Viv to be very stable. My system is 8Gb RAM, Win 7 64 bit Ultimate, Viv x64.
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Perhaps "default" means different things to different users. From my point of view, "default browser" means making it truly the OS-listed default browser for a variety of file types, as well as for user-directed manual browsing. And in that default scenario, Firefox still remains my default-set browser, simply because when I require a default browser to be employed, it absolutely must be a stable, released, reliable browser version. Vivaldi has not yet attained that level of assurance (nor does it advertise itself yet as such). That said, for 95+% of my casual, user-directed or manual browsing, I now find myself using Vivaldi and having very few consequential problems.
But because Vivaldi remains a Tech Preview level of browser and subject to updates significantly impacting performance and feature-sets, the presence of bugs and unexpected hiccups remain very real and significant - as even a casual perusal of these forum threads and the Dev blogs quickly reveals. While such things are usually tolerable in casual or manual browsing, they are unacceptable in a default tool where reliability and assured performance is needed. I believe Vivaldi will eventually get there, and I heartily welcome that day… but for now, that day is still future.
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Interesting. It is, both by habit and by system assignment, my default. I rarely resort to another browser for any purpose whatever. Granted, it is not without defect and I do occasionally (less than once a day on average) need another browser for something. But the vast majority of both my work and my casual perusal of the web fall nicely within its purview. But everyone's needs are different.
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I'm pasting this from my Blog reply:-
djmax 9 minutes ago
But from what I have been reading, Vivaldi is no better than a Clone of Chrome; Now if
they had started developing off the back of Chromium– the original open source project--
there may be a better Browser.
NO Browser should EVER cause any system to Freeze, if it does, then it is not Fit-for-
purpose, so I return to Opera every time, and as a second option, QupZilla.
The Easy option was to start with Chrome, but Chrome arose because: You can really
trust Google: /s
When you see that google loaded proprietary software, then one has to consider the
implications w.r.t. Vivaldi. -
I'm pasting this from my Blog reply:-
djmax 9 minutes ago
But from what I have been reading, Vivaldi is no better than a Clone of Chrome; Now if
they had started developing off the back of Chromium– the original open source project--
there may be a better Browser.
NO Browser should EVER cause any system to Freeze, if it does, then it is not Fit-for-
purpose, so I return to Opera every time, and as a second option, QupZilla.
The Easy option was to start with Chrome, but Chrome arose because: You can really
trust Google: /s
When you see that google loaded proprietary software, then one has to consider the
implications w.r.t. Vivaldi.Perhaps you wouldn't get quite so bent out of shape if you disabused yourself of the notion that Vivaldi was a "browser." It's a framework for a browser, under intense development. How many times, for instance, have you rented a room in a half-built hotel, and gone to the front desk (which did not yet exist) to complain about the noise, the dust, the fact that your room had no windows, running water or power, and that you got rained on the night? You're playing with a construction project, not a browser. Perhaps try to be real about that?
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Read the Header, it was/is, THAT, which I am replying to, and the reasons WHY it is not ready to be Default!!!
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@Gwen-Dragon:
Interesting, how do you force Vivaldi into a Freeze? Special OS? Special hardware.
Usually the freezes triggered by a browser are related to the Flash Player or to HW acceleration, and are just the manifestation of an underlying problem.
The uncommon heat of these days surely doesn't help either.
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Some tabs sometimes freeze for me when I lose internet connection. And they are knowingly pretty unresponsive during loading. This is known and to be expected in an alpha…
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Some tabs sometimes freeze for me when I lose internet connection.
A freeze limited to the browser itself is a different matter.
Opera did it for ages on connection problems, becoming not just frozen but also not killable with the task manager.
The problem was solved, I believe, during the Opera 10 development.
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I don't FORCE it to freeze, it does it of its own volition.
I have, Installed, opensuse 13.1, with 2Gig RAM.
The problem first came to my attention, when the CPU cooler started to run at Max.
When I went into System Monitor (KDE), Swap, was used beyond all comprehension, and CPU's
were running at 80-90%.
Could only be resolved by closing the Browser.
Maybe it would be more Helpful/Useful, if the developers offered some Insight/Feedback, so that a
reasonable understanding ensued, rather than 'Blaming' the user, or keeping them in a state of ignorance.