stop putting default bookmarks on update pls
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@paulri Vivaldi does get income from a default search engine. It is not nearly enough to support the browser.
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I donΒ΄t mind they do this, few clicks to delete them. But primary problem is they mess with sync and other Computers. Delete from one PC, update second PC. Second PC (re)turn back bookmarks on PC one. And so on, chasing own tail around.
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Please see the links I provided. The "heap big kahuna", Jon, the CEO of Vivaldi himself replied.
They are aware of the issue and are searching for the culprit. As always have some patience.
The bug is related to more than one aspect of Vivaldi and I'm sure the devs will track it down and fix it. -
The Sync Dev said the fix in on the way:)
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It appears to be fixed. At least it didn't happen on the last snapshot or stable release.
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I just installed Vivaldi to a new computer and synced before browsing around. The default bookmarks merged with my curated bookmarks so I guess it's not fixed for everyone yet. But good to know it's being worked on since Vivaldi is otherwise very good in letting ME control the browsing experience, it's why I love this browser.
Finding and deleting the merged bookmarks is a lot more work than just four clicks as someone claimed!
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@rufford155 Sometimes the default bookmarks were "reinstalled" via a backport whenever a new version, stable or snapshot, was released. It didn't happen to me during the last update.
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@Para-Noid What do you mean by backport?
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@Johanp said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
The default bookmarks merged .......
They sponsor Vivaldi:)
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@lamarca said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
@Para-Noid What do you mean by backport?
Sometimes the bookmarks reappeared when my laptop was just turned on.
I would shutdown overnight and when I booted back up the bookmarks reappeared.
I did not initiate any contact with V except I have sync enabled at all times with the
default bookmarks deleted from the bookmarks panel and trash on all synced installs.Maybe backport is the wrong term. But, the bookmarks kept returning without any action by me.
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@Para-Noid Thanks for the reply.
From wipediaBackporting is the action of taking parts from a newer version of a software system or software component and porting them to an older version of the same software.....
This is the "dangerous" method!
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@lamarca Like I said "the wrong" term. Not sure what it's called when something is re-added(?) when it was previously removed. Knowing me it's probably something simple.
additional: I always thought backported was when something was added through a back-door/back-channel?
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@Para-Noid said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
Like I said "the wrong" term.
Not really. It could be a term unknown for me
@Para-Noid said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
what it's called when something is re-added(?)
How about duplicated? It's the name we used at work.
@Para-Noid said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
when it was previously removed. Knowing me it's probably something simple.
Bug:)
Your
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@Para-Noid To "back-port" something means to add something developed for a newer version, to an older version. For instance, if the latest version is version 4, and a security update for it is developed and added. the most widely-used version might be version 3.9, and so one might back-port this security update to version 3.9, so that the majority of users can also benefit from the new development. Ver. 3.9 is still 3.9, but if you take the upgrade, it's now as secure as version 4.
Same with bugs. If 2.5 was released with a regression that made WhatsApp quit working, and the problem was solved in 2.6, then the fix can be back-ported to 2.5 in a minor update.
The sticky problem with the deleted default bookmarks, is the bookmarks being "restored" or "re-added" by sync or updates.
("port" comes from a Latin root meaning "carry," from which we get words like portage, transport, import and deport. So back-port is to carry back.)
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hello jarnix
been living with default thumbnails populating the spaces every time the history/ cache is cleared. thinking it is acceptable. as the demonstrated example links reappear each time. sync or not, the example links are not a bad starting point for the business of the browser. just be thankful that updates save settings; remember when they didn't? maybe that was too long ago for most of you. -
@Ayespy Btw, thanks for gnashing the teeths:)
Backporting was a routine for me couple of times ago. Mainly softwares related to music.
And then
You have unmet dependencies. Package X depends on package y, but it not going to be installed
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@lamarca and @Ayespy Thanks for reminding me of my "occasional" brain farts.
"Restore" is the word I was reaching for.@Ayespy Your, and I quote, "The problem was solved in 2.6, then the fix can be back-ported to 2.5 in a minor update." is not really backported if there is a user initiated update, minor update included. Back-port occurs via a ping without any user action.
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@Para-Noid said in stop putting default bookmarks on update pls:
Back-port occurs via a ping without any user action.
Uhhmmm, yeah, not a requirement for the definition to be met.
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I'm surprised that no one mentioned that this is how Vivaldi has money to pay for development.
We get a free product, have this forum to play on, etc. All that costs money.
Same answer to my post asking why Vivaldi doesn't abandon adding to the user-agent and just pretend to be Chrome?
Not the answer we want to hear but....
If I'm paying Vivaldi to have my site added into the pre-populated bookmarks then I want them jammed down your throat as much as possible.
Just saying....
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@qpongo It's not that severe, but the existence of default bookmarks is for purely economic reasons. These defaults are a part of how Vivaldi even exists.
That said, Jon and the team do not want these being imposed on everyone every time they update or sync. They DO want them being imposed on everyone who is installing without a pre-existing bookmark set. They DO want sync to militate against data loss, which at present means that Sync has backup data that can leak back into areas, such as bookmarks, where data has been changed in the current iteration, but not in the backup.