Take our quick survey on Tabs in Vivaldi
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Survey surveyed. This was rather short, I expected more unexpected questioning
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@luetage said in Take our quick survey on Tabs in Vivaldi:
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Yes, but nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapons are...
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@olgaa: Done again
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I use tab stacking to group tabs by topic. But actually, I liked the old opera behavior more.
The active tab stack was "expanded", so when I opened a new tab in the background in the stack, I could see it in the tab bar and directly click on it.
Now, the tab is added to the tab stack, but I have to hover the tab and identify the new page in the thumbnails - which gets harder the more tabs you have stacked... -
@bigmike Not quite the same point as yours, but not totally dissimilar; though tab-stacking is great & i use it all the time, often with double-digit numbers, i frequently find it extremely hard to quickly visually identify my currently focused tab amongst the multiple images. It would really help a large amount if the focused tab's preview was surrounded by a prominent
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@lonm: The same for me: I used it quiet often but sadly it is broken since ages (Win 10 64 bit, All recent and older snapshots 64 bit).
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Q: Do you miss tab stack expansion/collapse functionality (from Opera 12)?
A: Yes
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About tab hibernation: Neither given options applies for me so I skipped that question. I do not hibernate tabs, but that is solely because the around 30 tabs I have runs well on my computer. I do actually see a point in hibernating tabs, and will easily do that when needed.
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@cafosse: There is the window panel to handle it. Or you can switch with Quick Command. Or just use mouse and keyboard shortcuts
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Y'know, I am the kind of guy who complains my computer is slow when I always open 300+ tabs...
(Just in case you wonder my ram is 8gb)
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Off topic: I wonder if it is already there, but I wish 9 could bookmark the tabs in the tab stack (?) into one bookmark folder by one click.
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Done! I'm a fairly boring tab user, apparently, lol. Old school, old habits. Mouse clicks and cycling are my main actions. Less than 10 open at a time, no stacking, pinning, hibernating. But then my needs have changed. Back when I had my Web design company I suppose all those functions would've been used to the max.
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@seron Yeah, this the main reason I only answered "sometimes" to the question about how often I use tab stacking.
Stacking is incredibly powerful (thanks Vivaldi for that!), but I would use it a lot more if it was less "cumbersome":
- Slow and difficult to create tabs:
- "Slippy" and non-logical hovering management when creating a tab. I think it comes from the fact that the stack creation is triggered by the relative position between the 2 tabs (the one we are moving, and the destination tab). It would be more logical for the user if the trigger was the position of the mouse cursor, instead. It works this way for any element we move with a mouse in any OS!
- No keyboard shortcut
- Slow to see what tabs are in a stack and what to do with them (move the mouse, hover to display thumbnails, mouve the mouse, select, ...)
Opera 12 "expand" solution was clever: when you work on a stack, you have the details and a quick access to the other tabs in the same stack, for which you are more likely to switch to. You usually don't need to see the details of other stacks / activities. And if you do, you are just one click away (ie expand an other stack).
- Slow and difficult to create tabs:
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I miss the option to expand/retract tab groups from classic Opera (Opera 12).
I would use tab stacking much more if that option would exist in Vivaldi. -
@cozyplanes if you right click a tab stack, there should be a way to bookmark all the tabs, if I remember correctly.
However when you open it later, it will just open the tabs individually.
There's no way to view the tabs in a saved session yet.
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for obvious reasons I'm not using V as my main browser but I wonder if my input would help you to make it usable at last? should I fill the survey or not?
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@zakius Why not? If you use it at all, then it's useful to the devs to know how you use it to focus their attention on the most used features.
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Obviously did it ((in a new tab)).
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@lonm, @Fendar: What do you mean it is broken? Have it ever worked as you would expect before? In which version?
It works for me. Do you mean it switches in a different order than you would expect? Is the order like you expect once you enable Tab Cycler? Please explain in details, providing example, otherwise it is not possible to help you solve the problem. -
@RagnarEkre: Heh, this is the tricky thing with closed-answer options which consist of two separate statements - you may agree with the first part, but not the second. I am not sure what is the intent behind this question. Maybe the second sentence is only a decoration, as what really matters is only Yes/Sometimes/No and the reason is unimportant. But I think adding option like "No / mostly not. No need - my PC handles well without hibernation the number of tabs I open." may add some more insight.
I would hope @OlgaA could clarify.