Partner with Proton VPN
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Hmm, why so much hate towards VPN?
Opera has integrated VPN that works really well. Haven't had any problems with it, except in very early when they launched it.
It feels that internet is censored more and more day by day, so I'll give my vote for VPN
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@jasal said in Partner with Proton VPN:
Hmm, why so much hate towards VPN?
It has been much discussed before. See this thread for a comment by Christian — a Vivaldi Team member.
Blackbird is also well worth listening to.
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@jasal depends to what group you belong
https://vivaldi.com/blog/vpns-proxies-privacy/-
Hiding your IP address to e.g. watch a country restricted video?
This wouldn't even need a VPN but only a masking proxy. Might work if they don't check thoroughly but only do the minimum to say "see, we have restricted it as you wanted". If the site really wants to block you, it can. -
Hiding from your co-workers in your local network?
That usually works quite well - they won't even see where you are going to, provided the DNS queries are handled by the VPN too. -
Securing your connection against sniffing while sitting in an internet cafe with an open network?
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Circumventing some blocks set by a local administrator or government?
If the administrator or government staff is worth it's salt and know what they are doing, they simply block all traffic that is not explicitly allowed and that's it.
In the end securing a connection between two points works with VPNs, but everything else does not.
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How about Tor?
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Although Proton VPN is a reliable thing (I use Proton Mail), any VPN service, even Open Source, costs money, since the servers they use are not free. There are free VPN services, true, but these for the aforementioned reason only offer a limited service, either in the bandwidth allowed, volume of data, or in the number of servers, so they usually only serve for specific uses, such as watch a restricted video, for example. For continued use there is no other possibility of using a paid VPN service.
Beware of those who offer an unlimited service for free, these probably traffic with their users' data or worse with the IPs that exchange them, instead of using public servers (see Hello VPN), being completely counterproductive. what they should be, keep our privacy and security.
A VPN built into the browser can never replace a paid VPN in the system.
Regarding privacy in the network there are many myths and misunderstandings. I laugh when I see users browsing the open web with TOR (without even putting a VPN to work before). Apart from being a solemn nonsense that only slows the connection desperately, it offers no more privacy than doing it with a normal browser in an anonymous window (namely that TOR was a project developed by the US Navy and the NSA, which smiles when someone thinks that they can not control them, more than 3500 pages in the Dark Web intercepted and dissolved so far this year show it)
Privacy in the network does not exist and only depends on ourselves and our common sense. The only thing we can do is to try not to use software that collects our data and block our PC against unwanted intruders, everything else is pure illusion. -
just bump into this: https://www.epicbrowser.com/
Apparently someone did bundle VPN into a browser...
but is it any good? or reliable? trustworthy?Anyone try it before?
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@dude99 It's not a VPN (most "vpn's" are not). It's an encrypted proxy.
Since it's a proxy, some websites will reject it.
Seems like it would provide content and negotiation privacy.
Caveat: When a product is "free," you are the product.
I have not tried it.
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One just has to remember that all that information goes someplace.
If you decide on using a VPN, then all the info that went through your ISP now gets routed through the VPN.
There are several good ones out there but they all operate somewhere and if the courts of that land decide your browsing is suspect and issue a court order to release them the VPN must comply as they must comply with standard retention policies of that state.As for V partnering with a VPN, well personally I think V's resources could be better spent.
Total Aside:
[EXPLETIVE], How I hate TLAs (Three Letter [EXPLETIVE] Acronyms) -
If the VPN is used only, for example to be able to access a video restricted in the country or similar purposes, you can also simply use a proxie, as there are many. (f.ex. https://proxy.toolur.com/ ) ,
If Startpage is used, this, apart from having a proxy function, allows you to see the videos directly on the results page, without having to visit the corresponding page -
@ayespy said in Partner with Proton VPN:
It's not a VPN (most "vpn's" are not). It's an encrypted proxy.
Huh? Isn't VPN just encrypted proxy?
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better include built in DNS in browser than proxy or VPN easy way
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@bumkailashkumar said in Partner with Proton VPN:
better include built in DNS in browser than proxy or VPN easy way
A DNS in the browser? I think it's too easy to configure it on the system itself so that it's worth it, because it is perhaps using DNScrypt or similar
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@dude99 The original meaning of VPN was a tunnel from the computer to an actual pre-existing private network, such as your corporate or work or home network. Proxy has stolen the term to mean something that VPN did not originally mean.
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@ayespy Oh, so you are saying original VPN is A tunneling directly to C (final destination) with encryption. Then now the commercial VPNs are A tunneling through B (VPN servers) to get to C (final destination) all with encryption, so B should be consider as "just proxy with encryption"? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
I'm not sure, in my perspective as a consumer, at the end both are doing the same thing - encrypting my Internet traffic/packages so that 3rd party can't see the content & the address to final destination.
Thanks for the informative discussion.