Vivaldi Rebooted my PC
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@Pesala
I'm on Win7_x64 and I also get some freezes and reboots and blue-screens from time to time.
I'm not 100% sure it is Vivaldi - but I have the strong suspicion because problems started shortly after setting Vivaldi as default browser.btw. do you have Tampermonkey extension installed? I tend to believe it got much worse after the installation of Tampermonkey.
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@alf5000 The only extension I have installed is Broken Link Checker. I am fairly sure that videos are the most likely culprit for this issue.
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@pesala WOW.... You still still use the depleted version of Opera? I didn't think you could use 12.17 anymore because it is most likely to not render pages correctly due to that version of Opera being WAYYYYYYYYY out of date.
Chris
[email protected] -
- I use Opera for my email
- I use it to edit the source of local HTML files
I use it to open pages in other browsers. When I can do these things in Vivaldi, I will no longer need to use it.
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Just to throw in another 'me too!' I have experienced this issue as well. Random restarts, only when Vivaldi is running, newer hardware that has been thoroughly tested (memory, psu, etc.). Oddly I do not even get a memory dump.
I am noticing a lot of people mentioning A10 processors in this thread however...could there be a link there? Windows 10 1709, AMD A10 7860k here, issue is occurring on a fresh Windows install even.
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@meatplanet Here, it's Windows 10 (1709) X64, AMD A10 8750 3.6 GHz; ASUS EAH5450 graphics; .5TB Mushkin MLC SSD; 16 GB DDR3 PC3 12800 RAM.
No restart symptoms of any kind. I also have Vivaldi Stable, Snapshot and internal tester versions on this and 9 other machines (8 Win 10 and 1 Win 7) of a whole range ages and capabilities. No restart symptoms. Hard to say what might cause it.
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Maybe it's HWA of video decode.
Check vivaldi://gpu, and if it's notVideo Decode: Software only.
then go and disable it
vivaldi://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode
I always have bsods with hwa enabled when viewing online videos in chromium based browsers. And never when hwa is off.
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This happened again today, not long after booting up so it was not due to any overheating CPU.
This time I was scrolling through the podcast by Jon, backtracking to find some comments about his plans for customisation of Vivaldi.
No warning message. Windows just rebooted.
I replied to my bug report, attaching the latest minidump file.
(VB-35397) While Watching Video my PC Rebooted
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An update since this happened a few times since my last post.
- 17/3/2018
- 24/3/2018
- 28/3/2018
- 8/4/208
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@Pesala
I know we can't be 100% sure, but a reboot like this has a very high probability to be linked to hardware.
As previously said, it can be caused by faulty HW (memory, power supply, ...), but also by faulty use of the HW (bad driver, or bad use of the driver if this one is not robust enough, which may explain the "video" use case). However, when the driver is involved, I would expect the OS to warn you (like a blue screen on windows), and not a "sudden reboot".
Which OS are you on?The fact that there is no warning at all let me think it is the HW directly (and especially the power supply)
But anyway, seeing it only when using Vivaldi does not mean it is not HW related (ex: specific usage of the memory, by some drivers or libraries, which trigger the issue?)Have you tested your memory? (boot memtest before the OS, and let it run a couple of full passes). Your GPU? (even if for the GPU, it is a bit harder to test, and more a robustness test under stressing conditions rather than a full checkup, at least with softs like OCCT) Your Power supply? (also with OCCT)
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@guilimote You make a good point. Intermittent restarts here, irrespective of use patterns, have always over the years proved to be incipient hardware failures - in one case a GPU, but in all other cases, power supply or motherboard.
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This is most likely a hardware or hardware driver problem.
What Windows version are you running and are you by any chance running ESET?
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@guilimote said in Vivaldi Rebooted my PC:
a reboot like this has a very high probability to be linked to hardware.
However, it has only ever happened when doing something in Vivaldi, never when working in other applications.
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@pesala I know... But like I said in my previous message: maybe Vivaldi makes a "specific usage of the memory, by some drivers or libraries, which triggers the issue?" (but with a real root cause being HW related?)
Maybe also, it is just a question of chance or statistics, ie you spend a lot of time on Vivaldi, making the probability higher?
Nevertheless "a very high probability" does not mean it is the case, so I don't say you're wrong.Anyway, It must be kind of very irritating issue... So I really wish you good luck with that!
Have you tried further investigation on your RAM, GC and power supply ? (I suggested memtest86 and OCCT, but there are lot of other tools) -
Another crash today, about a week after the previous one. The usual symptoms, watching YouTube videos. In this case it was paused in one tab, while browsing the BBC website in another tab.
I sent another crash dump to my bug report. I don't really expect anyone to work on this ,but just take note that there might be an issue with video or Adobe Flash (also updated today)
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Just happened again for the first time in a month, with the usual recipe:
- Watching a YouTube video
- GestureLeft to go back
This time there was some corruption and Vivaldi would not launch even after a reinstalled. I installed it to a fresh VeraCrypt drive and copied my User Data folder across
My C:\Windows\Minidump\ folder no longer exists. Probably due to the latest Windows update.
Back up and running fairly painlessly. I still think that Watching videos in Vivaldi is putting excessive loads on my hardware. No bluescreens, no warning, just an immediate reboot.
Specs: AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 10 64-bit •Snapshot 1.16.1195.3 (64-bit)
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@pesala said in Vivaldi Rebooted my PC:
Specs: AMD A10-6800K
I think I found your problem Just by googling seems that this CPU suffers from overheating especially the 4ghz+ models. Bad fans or bad PSU can force the cpu to reset to save the HW under high stress.
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@ian-coog Perhaps, but Vivaldi needs to improve its code for caching videos to put less load on the CPU. I only change my PC once in ten years. I do clean out the dust from time to time.
Since the reboot nearly always happens in similar circumstances it highlights an area that might be improved in the Vivaldi code.
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Bumping this old thread because I had two sudden shut downs yesterday and today while watching YouTube videos in Vivaldi.
This time I took off the CPU cooling fan and cleaned out a massive amount of dust (this place has been a building site for about 7 months and I have been doing some DIY since moving back into my renovated flat).
Hopefully, now that the fins on the CPU heat-sink are clear of brick dust and saw-dust, I won't see a repeat of this problem.
P.S. Note that it is more than 3 years since I first reported this problem. My PC has not gone south due to some inherent hardware problem. My previous Windows XP PC (also from Novatech) was still working after 7 years when I upgraded and gave it away.
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@Gwen-Dragon WinKey+R eventvwr shows 2 critical kernel-power events in the last 24 hours and 3 in the last 7 days. I guess those refer to the sudden shut downs.