M3?
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Any word about M3? Haven't heard anything about Vivaldi releasing its own mail client. Web mail is fine. Having a mail client would be even better.
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M3 is being tested internally. As a tester, I can say it's getting better everyday.
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@lamarca Let me spice this up for you
We are enjoying M3 internally
And as a tester I can say,
It's getting better every day.
Behold, your wait shall be infernally. -
@luetage well done. It seems we both like poetry.
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@lamarca
I'd love to ASAP test and possibly confirm it on my own, and I'm 100% certain I'm not the only one. -
@michaa7 Of course you're not - but until it's working on all platforms again (recent updates caused severe regressions) and there is NO likelihood of data loss, no one will see it but we guinea pigs.
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I wont hold my breath on M3.
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@zhnujm Dropped? Delayed a little while longer, maybe. But with the amount of work the devs are apparently putting in to it, I don't see it being dropped.
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@old_friend It is not even close to three years yet, and no one is eluding anything. Ayespy and others are already using the mail client. There have been many recent statements about its state of readiness. It will be released when its ready and not before. Vivaldi cannot afford for new users to lose their email. It would quickly destroy their reputation before it is even established.
TechCrunch: (January 27th 2015):
“The former CEO of Opera, Jon von Tetzchner, has released the Vivaldi Browser for fans of the old Opera. This initial release is a Technical Preview, i.e. it is neither feature complete, nor free from bugs that might spoil your day.
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M3 needs to come soon!
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Maybe you could release some "M3 inluded" alpha branch ? For testing purposes only...
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@kubasz They already do but the alphas are for sopranos only. What is the hurry anyway with people saying they need an email client in Vivaldi? Do you want an unfinished not working program? Don't you already have an email client?
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The hurry is that we all use them, we are all old Opera users and used M2 with Opera. Vivaldi is taking way too long for releasing M3.
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@saudiqbal said in M3?:
The hurry is that we all use them, we are all old Opera users and used M2 with Opera. Vivaldi is taking way too long for releasing M3.
Old Opera had much bigger team of developers.
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If there are still problems with data loss after three years development its even worse than i thought...
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@blackbird The effort and complexity is greater than Vivaldi devs estimated too. We shouldn't forget the inclusion of M3 was being teased when the first technical preview was released. In the first versions even the dysfunctional panel for the mailclient was enabled for all users by default. We can't blame the devs, it takes as long as it takes, but we can't blame users either for expecting it sooner.
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...We can't blame the devs, it takes as long as it takes, but we can't blame users either for expecting it sooner.
I guess we look at things slightly differently. When it comes to something I'm receiving for free, I usually only "expect" that it works reliably in the areas it claims to. I'm much more forgiving about whether or not it yet includes something that was listed as a goal or object when it was first being touted... that is, I don't have "expectations" regarding the addition of features, and my hopes for such things tend to be liberally salted with patience. YMMV.
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@zhnujm In truth, development of a capable email client is much more complex and difficult than you thought. It is easily on the scale of a full browser. The number of moving parts turns out to be simply staggering. That said, the Vivaldi developers have made a functional email client that works reliably, but lacks features which require hundreds of hours of coding to add. Further, the window-handling re-write for the browser which was made necessary by Chromium developments, has killed the mail client for 32-bit systems. My 64-bit systems still use it, no problems. My 32-bit systems cannot use it at all right now, though they could before. Until the client is reliable for everyone, until it has a complete suite of basic features, it will not be released. I will say that M3 had features after less then two years, which, for instance, it took mailbird over six years to include. So our guys are doing a good job. And the general public user will have to wait a while longer before they get to play with it.
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I use X64 and would not mind testing it.