Deleting inactive accounts policy
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@luetage said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
Thank you for signing up to let us know .........
lol
Speaking of new "users", the community is growing. We are close to 100,000 members. By the time i am posting, there are 99,993 members.//MODEDIT: Topic forked from this thread and moved to Forum Feedback ~pafflick
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@lamarca said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
We are close to 100,000 members. By the time i am posting, there are 99,993 members.
This looks a lot better than it really is. Only about 16,000 members have posted at all.
I suggest purging the user database every six months and removing all users who have never posted if they have joined six months ago or earlier.
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@Pesala said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
This looks a lot better than it really is. Only about 16,000 members have posted at all.
Thanks for the info and the accuracy.
@Pesala said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
I suggest purging the user database every six months and removing all users who have never posted if they have joined six months ago or earlier.
Well .... that makes two of us. Six months for deleting inactive users is too long.
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Hmm...
I believe it would be unfair to force members to start posting to keep their account. After all signing up to the community is the only way to get a Vivaldi mail account. And besides, even if most are inactive, 100k members is still a reason to celebrate, and gives bragging rights to the team. -
@luetage said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
100k members is still a reason to celebrate, and gives bragging rights to the team.
If people brag about having a 100,000 a year salary but actually only get 16,000 a year what would you think about them?
If you're going to brag, at least base it on some kind of meaningful facts.
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@luetage said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
..... After all signing up to the community is the only way to get a Vivaldi mail account.......
Indeed. Forgot the mail users only. However there must tools able to identify inactive users on forum and Vivaldi mail simultaneously.
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ahem. the obvious: if forum is used for problem-solving, then what about the 100,000 users that have no problem for a continuous year or two. Would not wish to ignore that the developers do their job so well that there is not one problem. Nor wish to ignore a good job done by forum participants that one reporter of problem derives solution for all users that have no need to individually sign-in to read the solution. These jobs of service being successful would not provide a premise to eliminate the help forum. Inactivity of the user base in a help forum is desirable if seen as indicator of browser health while not construed as indicator of community illness. Allow boasting when there is no problems.
hello santaclous
Looks bad to You? how is vivaldi working? Possibly you could nail down some vivaldi customisations to satisfy yourself and others of us vivaldi users. I don't know if we are vivaldiites, vivaldians, or whatever you operoons wish to call us. Did Pesala's answer regarding settings strike your nail on its head? -
@lamarca 100k members milestone reached
https://forum.vivaldi.net/user/sangragat UID:100000When does the party start and will there be champagne?
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@Pesala said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
If people brag about having a 100,000 a year salary but actually only get 16,000 a year what would you think about them?
Poor soul, those damn government taxes are too high!
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What is that negative impact of the forum member that is not logging-into forum? Did you want their username? Not Posting or Not logging-in? The positive impact of this entity is this number 100,000 that you proudly discuss. Schizophrenia struck you? Forum exists to appease product users. Deleting accounts does just the opposite of the goal while requiring much administrative input now and for future fallout. Just grow your number and be happy.
Reading statistics fun? ,,, 83.993 members not reporting problem.
It seems our turn of the cheek to those who visibly write sometimes just awful things
is less severe than deleting those who are silent. How will you punish product users not registered for forum? and remain with the ideal We do not care what locations you visit with vivaldi browser We just want you all to use it! I hope no Team get deleted. There can be activity without visibility both harmful or beneficial; sort that side of the free forum reputation and call it good. With JuniorSilva we applaud your tolerative inaction.
hello JSilva Do You suppose san/ santa is a gender indicator? be nice to the lady with beautification issues.
hello gnunard Thanks. With each vivaldi screenshot post the community becomes more beautiful. Welcome. -
@luetage said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
@lamarca 100k members milestone reached
https://forum.vivaldi.net/user/sangragat UID:100000When does the party start and will there be champagne?
We reached 100,000 members. I don't know about the party
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@lamarca
If 100,000 is a party milestone, then we say
delete some members so that we can reach 100,000 soon again party. The fewer you delete the more often we can party at 100,000. -
hello Pesala you appreciate examples
If we give to you bank credit card expires ten years future date. You do not use the card for two years. Will the bank increase Your credit limit threshhold or cancel the card?hello santaclous Do you wish to ask how to create vivaldi alteration more to your preference, after you retrieve from sight that ugly non-vivaldi image? Pesala can give excellent aid in this. Did you wish some help with beautification of Your vivaldi?
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Who of you has been in the circumstance of long-term absence in membership environment where you found your membership durable or deleted. your preference? Happy to see your return is best, eh.
and some if disappear without a word for six months you could be so happy to not even delete them. [finger pointing allowed 8-|] -
vivaldi vivaldi twice as handsome .
Steffie when i saw bulging eyes I was worried of reference to myself. the immediate flared nostrils eased me, I don't have a nose. phew. not me.
hello T, twenty1 . newly signed-on. that is threee new in this topic. did one of you get the* user id 100000?add: no fairness in downvotes if Pesala gets 2 minus, then lamarca gets 4 minus for agreeing and encouraging even more rigorous filtering. You do not deserve the minuses Pesala. This edit has been made with this post bearing one plus. reconsideration with this emend may be in order.
edit:* to answer my own question. seen the post naming sangragat claiming the number with five zero.
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I really don't understand when (and why) this shuold be a problem. Really... If someone don't post it could be a nice thing; afterall, at least maybe means they don't need help. Or maybe they don't feel much confartable enought to join the community. If a great percentage of registered users don't post, this don't means they don't read the others posts in Forum. Why we would force them to post unecessary post or questions, only to avoid the ipothetycal registration expires?
Every single user here is important. And who made a post, to ask or help the community, it's a potential stimulus factor for who don't feel confortable. A friendly place it's always welcome, ever. -
@twenty1 said in Vivaldi Vivaldi looks ugly.:
People who do not post are not causing trouble.
Leave them alone.
Trolls cause trouble, focus on them.OK. I will bite. You joined two months ago, but so far had nothing to say, whether praise, constructive criticism, or just making a friendly introduction.
Suddenly, at the mere hint of losing your right to post (not to view the forums, since one can do that without joining or logging in), you decide to cause trouble by posting a negative comment.
Those posts that merely say, "Hi, I just joined to try out Vivaldi," don't clutter the forum. Those that add something positive encourage the devs and others.
Posts like the OP that are negative do clutter the forum. Inevitably, people respond and a few more kbytes get lost in cyberspace.
If, after six months, you have not discovered any bugs, thought of any feature requests, nor asked any questions about how to use or modify Vivaldi, then you won't miss being able to post. I suggested 6 months as a reasonable limit because I know that people don't immediately get around to testing new software that they installed just to try it out.
Those who just want an email address are welcome to keep it. I don't think it would be hard to purge forum membership without also letting users retain their email address.
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@Pesala I have trouble understanding why inactive members annoy you so much. There is no valid reason to "purge" users. People should be free to take advantage of the forums however they want. Posting isn't the only way to interact, you can
- upvote opinions/ideas you want to support
- follow users
- bookmark helpful/interesting posts
- watch topics and receive notifications
We shouldn't try to dictate how members use these forums, I object to this. And even if we assume there is a user, who never did any of these things, lost their password and deleted their recovery email -- why would we purge them? I see no benefit.
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Inactive members do not annoy me at all. People who have nothing positive to say about Vivaldi or constructive suggestions made by active members do.
The purpose of purging the database is to provide a realistic measure of how many active members there are.
If people don't post for six months, they won't even notice that their membership has been terminated. If they decide to post later, they can always rejoin.
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Oh, I understand why you want it now. But this could be achieved much more efficient. You just gotta introduce a dedicated page with forum statistics. E.g.
- number of users who logged in during a timespan
- number of posts/topics submitted in a certain timespan
- number of new users per timespan
- etc.
No need to purge users for this, many forums make this kind of information public, I don't see why Vivaldi forums couldn't do this. I'm sure they have the data available and are observing it internally since the beginning.