Stand alone mail program
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Is the team still working on a stand alone email program?
Vivaldi Mail maybe?
Thank you
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@g6radio Why still? I've never heard of such plans. You have vivaldi webmail, and at some point this will be integrated in the browser.
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To be clear, what Vivaldi developers are building (and what I am using as my daily driver for email) is an INTEGRATED email app, built-in to the browser. We are calling it M3. It is not related in any way to Vivaldi's webmail, which is just another web-based service like gmail or anything else.
M3, if a user activates it and sets up email accounts, opens when one opens the browser, signs in to one's email accounts, and downloads emails to be viewed locally - just like Thunderbird or similar, but actually built-in to the browser so that you can see the email client and a web page at the same time.
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@WayneB - That's the case with most webmail services. But one must differentiate between a client, a program on your computer which can fetch and store mail from any service or identity/address, and a service, essentially a company elsewhere and available via internet, which provides an identity/address and a limited online storage location for your mail. One lives on your computer (the client) and the other (the service) lives on your provider's servers somewhere else in the world. One (the client) has emails that can be looked at and worked with even if you are not connected to the web, and the other (the service) requires you to be on line to look at emails you have already received.
I blame the dumbing-down of computers and the web, that people can't understand the differences between these two. I can forgive a confusion between IMAP and POP3 (or even that people don't know that there are such things as IMAP and POP3, much less that they operate differently) but I find it hard to get over that people don't understand that a mail client and a mail service (like the difference between your mail slot/mailbox at your house, and the postal service in your town) are in no way similar.
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Perfect, that is what i was actually thinking, the team was working on some type of email system like you mention.
I have vague memories of opera having something similar a few years? ago.? maybe...
Much appreciate your answer and looking forward to start using M3 when it is available.
Thank you again
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@g6radio It was called M2
You can download the standalone email client to use while you're waiting for M3.
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@g6radio I'd keep your eyes on HERMES, it's based on the open sourced Eudora code and it's not the amalgamated Penelope, which implemented Eudora's features in Thunderbird.
It's going to be MDI based, like the original eudora. So imagine one windows with 10 different folders, each one monitoring a different folder.
https://sourceforge.net/p/hermesmail/blog/2018/09/the-project-plan/
Personally I am using for work:
- Outlook webmail (way more responsive than the 2016 outlook desktop app and searches are faster)
- Thunderbird (more responsive than outlook and the searches are faster, but not as fast as Opera, and it keep important emails open in tabs when you close the program)
- Opera browser for reading email and quick replies (it doesn't save drafts in IMAP but it DOES keep important emails open in tabs when you close the program). It does not support IMAP IDLE (for fast inbox refreshes, when used with DavMail to connect to Exchange). Oddly, Opera's IMAP implementation is very fast when used with Gmail's servers, so the issue is probably with DavMail.
- Eudora 7 (the final, ad supported version, pulled from archive.org, lightning fast searches, similar to Opera)
- Chandler (I use it for project management; it's not really an email app, but it can store your projects and project statuses in IMAP folders and send emails too)
I am even looking at the venerable Pegasus. I am also looking at mulberry mail and Kmail (the last version of Kmail is slow on Windows due to using an old version of QT)
I am so fed up with Windows desktop emails apps not having everything that I expect, that I might put Linux on my personal laptop and use Davmail to fetch my work exchange accounts. Then I can:
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evaluate a newer Kmail (the kde integrated pim looks NICE),
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evolution (the last windows build doesn't work with exchange 2010+ natively but thankfully the excellent DavMail proxy support contacts, calendar, tasks, email, and the GAL and AD directory as LDAP)
I am even considering using Emacs, mutt, pine/alpine or GNUS for email. Is there any other recent Linux desktop email program that I have forgotten?
Remember, even Marissa Mayer preferred mutt when she was at Google.
I completely agree with purgatori's rant here:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/84938Opera's original M2 client developers were way ahead of their time: at work today, most people are constantly switching between email/pim and their web browsers.
Off on another rant: I miss Wordperfect InfoCentral and wish it supported MAPI links in Windows 7-10. Thankfully it works in WINE! Background: https://www.macros.koenecke.us/InfoCentral/whyic.html